KTM 690 or Husky 650 Terra ??

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Dalmatino, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. modeselector

    modeselector Common as muck

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    The Terra's 400 has plenty where the KTM is around 230. That said, the 690 has no problem heating my jacket, running GPS, heated grips on high with power to spare for Vision-X LED aux lights - can't immagine I need to run any additional power than that.
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  2. Ol'NumNuts

    Ol'NumNuts A Bloke and his Akita- Flynn

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    What about the Farkles and Mods?

    Sure the ktm has been around for a while but somehow I see the Terra as more of a 'blank page' to tweak to my hearts content...

    Farkles are still slim pickings but that's changing daily...

    With the Terra I've got $2-3k to tweak the bike into something that almost perfectly suits my preferences. Frankly at my age I'm looking for a bit more comfort and flexibility rather tan pure off road performance which I don't think the Terra will ever match the Ktm regardless of how much you spent on it.
    Whereas with the Ktm you've already heavily weighted your choice towards a more off road bias- so what are you gonna do?
    Make it even more off road superior or 'dumb it down' to a more street friendly choice?

    Nah, the Terra wins hands down for me....
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  3. modeselector

    modeselector Common as muck

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    I do like to occasionally jump on the wife's 650 for a spin - fantastic motor and have not had a single issue with it.

    The 690 handles the road remarkably well and the overall components are much better out of the box. For anyone coming from the dirt world like a CRF-X, TE, EXC etc.the KTM would be a better choice when the speed picks up or the terrain gets difficult~and of course the weight difference.

    If coming from a KLR, DR, GS or street world-IMO the Terra fits that audience well. The Terra should make a very good long distance touring bike with good gravel and some 2-track capabilities.
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  4. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    Yeah, I dumbed mine down to make it more comfortable for touring.

    Damper - $600
    Seat- $300
    Lowering Link- $150
    Cut Sidestand- $40
    Luggage and racks- $700
    Screen- $75
    Power outlets- $100
    Total to dumb down- $1965

    Not complaining, though. My objective was to exchange my 950 twin for something I can ride the same way, yet be able to pick it up out of the mud by myself. So far I've picked the 690 up no problem twice! :clap
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  5. Dalmatino

    Dalmatino Been here awhile

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    The only extra thing I see that you may not need for touring on the Terra is the stering damper.
    The diff is in the price but than you get lot more in KTm...
    Man this is going to be a hard decision..Logic for my needs says Terra but the performance Junkie in me wnts KTM....Man a Test ride is going to be a must...
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  6. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    You bet it will be! I just got back from a little ride. Mild out today at 45. Didn't even need the heat. All I can say is, Dang I love this 690! It is almost totally smooth now. Probably get a little smoother after 4k miles. It runs so well! Seems to have perfect fueling to me. Idle is rock steady, no flat spots anywhere, just a rush of power like no single I've ever ridden. I think it is quite a bit quicker than my old Ducati 750 Monster.

    The mods I did are perfect for an old fart like me. Set up like a KLR, but 100lbs lighter with near twice the power and it's friendly power too. Low enough to have no issues in parking lots and so handy in the city. Jeepers, what a motorcycle. She's so hot...

    :raabia

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  7. Dalmatino

    Dalmatino Been here awhile

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    Looks mighty nice :thumbup
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    pfy50 Professional nOOb

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  9. B1

    B1 Carbon-based bipedal

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    dalmatino, see if you can get a test ride on the 690 (and ideally on the terra too). from what you say i think you'd be far better off with the terra. but guys seem to love or hate the 690... unfortunately i was in the latter group and sold mine after two months. but i can see if spend some money on them they can be comfortable bikes to ride.

    it's a pity the terra wasn't a lighter bike but for the riding you describe it shouldn't matter, and actually make it more comfortable on road trips anyway.
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  10. Wallachian Spikes

    Wallachian Spikes Long timer

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    The Terra was designed with the KLR 650 in it's sights, NOT the KTM 690. The Terra is still a bit lighter than a second gen KLR & on paper it seems like it will be far better than the KLR. The Terra is probably going to be hard to beat as a "street oriented" dual sport that can still get you deep into the woods.

    Personally (you may disagree) I consider the KLR a better street bike (not by much) than the DR 650 & the DR a better dirt bike (not by much) than the KLR. I'd love to see a hard core comparison in cycle world or motorcyclist magazine putting the KLR, DR, Terra & the 690 through a 1,000 mile test in all aspects of terain.
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  11. shipwrek12001

    shipwrek12001 Shipwrek

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    we have a rally here in ontario, which entertains a 100 bikes over a 1000km's,
    the klr is unstopable with the weight to kill your back, dr is a mini tank with the ability to be absolutley nothing special., ktm is a power house with a potenial to be an electrical or related nightmare. I have never seen a Terra being new and all. It seems to be a cross bettween the klr and dr. My only experince with huskey. was a water out because of a very low air intake:huh

    I'm all in for the 690, I have never been on anything like it. I use it for all riding. from freeway 6 laner to easy single track to running with luggage. Wheelie's at 80kmph are always fun too.:huh all round best fun.:clapimo
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  12. Dalmatino

    Dalmatino Been here awhile

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    Good info, thanks all...Loks like theres a lot of stuff for the 690. Gas tanks, seats and full ralley fearings and much more. All logic tells me that the Terra will be more than adequite enough but after gettn all the necesities on the bike I figure it will come in around 430lbs ready to roll as where the 690 may hit 350..Thats a huge diference especialy for a less experianced off road guy like me.

    I'm looking at this as a second long term do all bike (got an SV1000 for full street). I will use it to explore the northern back country of AB and SK, throw it in the Van and go to southern US in winter to dualsport and play in the tarmac twisties. Also I want to do few long adventure trips like Alaska, Baja and copper canyon. All this in mind I want to set it up with apropriate Luggage ability, decent wind protection (nothing big tho), aftermarket seat, auxilary gas tanks and so on.
    I also want to run 2 sets of wheels. 17" 19" with more street biased tires for that hard core street use and 18" 21" for for the major off road use and long ADv trips.
    All this is adding up to some big coin on either bike but because of that I beter make sure I get the right one. All the mechanics and bling aside I got to find out which one speaks to me so a test ride will ba a must...
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  13. Duken4evr

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    Maybe look at the Husky 610/630 too if you can find a clean used one, especially if you do intend to do any kind of real off roading. Seems to me the older Husky perfectly splits the difference between the harder core KTM (which is a very cool bike) and the softer core BMW based Terra.
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  14. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    Good post - The only thing I would change is the proposed smaller wheelset. the 17/19 deal doesn't do anything well unless you are on a 600lb motorcycle, where a 21 front isn't enough because of the skinny tire.

    I'm not a hard core single track rider, but I definitely appreciate the fact that a 21 inch front rolls better over distressed terrain. If you really want to push the front tire on tar, a 19 won't give you the right tire. On rough terrain the 19 handicaps your potential.

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  15. Dalmatino

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    You're right Pantah...I ment 17" 18" for second wheel set...Theres a good selection of variety tires in 18" front.
    Reason I dont want 17" 17" (been there) is;

    A) doesnt look right to me (not that important)
    B) makes the bike twitchy
    C) actualy dont work as well in real rough and bumpy tarmac
    D) If I want to hit some basic off road stuff while on a road trip, I can a lot better with the narower 18" than with 17" wider front tire.
    I did come to this conclusion from previous experiannce with my DR650

    Idea is to run this setup on regular bases for everyday use (mostely pavement) and than switch to stock wheels with agressive offroad tires when planing on a specific off-road ride.

    I dont have much of dualsporting experiance so I could be pissn in the wind with all my ideas but I do know one thing for sure... I need to take some off road riding corses more than anything :D
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  16. kawagumby

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    I test rode a Terra a couple of days ago. My impression was that it is heavy, good engine, would make a great all-round street bike with smooth fireroad and trail capability. Everything is made of steel, that's why it's so heavy (400+/- lbs with 3.6 gal tank full).

    Downside: ECU requires $900 plus reader so you'd not likely do your own diagnostics. Suspension is not much adjustable - rear is preload and rebound only (as I recall) ...front is limited too. The Terra has two of the dumbest designs I've ever seen, a side-stand that won't stay down (you really have to pay attention and set the bike on it every time) and the rear brake arm/pedal is located hanging below the footpeg, so you are guaranteed to eventually get it squashed off road. Just plain dumb.

    Price is good, but a lot of dealers pad with a huge setup/freight charge. I bought a new 08 KLR650 (in 08) for about 6500 OTD, the two Husky dealers I talked to wanted nearly $8500 OTD for the Terra. So, with the number of KLR's out there in dealerships, the difference is likely much larger than just the MSRP. (I didn't like my KLR because it was too difficult to ride off-road, and I honestly think the Terra would be very similar although with a lower CG). Lifting 400 lb bikes doesn't cut it.

    The KTM's I know nothing about other than they are orange.
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  17. Dalmatino

    Dalmatino Been here awhile

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    Good info, thanks Kawagumbi.

    Yea I dont mind the extra weight on the tarmac but those longer trips where I'll be spending days and weeks in places like Baja could realy make the difference of enjoying it, or being unplesent hard work.
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  18. JustBob

    JustBob Uh...who me?

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    Anyone notice the supply of Terra's has dried up? What's up with that?
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  19. ryguy83

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    Pretty sure this is the only year there being made,so whatever was made so far,then that's it:dunno

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  20. nomad guy

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    Husky are not planing on making any street bikes under the new ownership.
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