KTM 690 OWNER REVIEW, KNOWN ISSUES & PROBLEMS

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  1. sprouty115

    sprouty115 Long timer

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    To be clear, i don't disagree agree with your initial post. Every one of those points is valid. And it's hard to argue that for what is essentially a $10k dirt bike, there are things that shouldn't need to be fixed.

    But even after having it a few years now, I still love it. It's the bike I dreamed of in highschool - perfect for just roaming around exploring places.
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  2. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Nope, the 690 was built around a SM platform.
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  3. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    LOL, the 690 IS a LC4.
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  4. Takataka

    Takataka Been here awhile

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    Do you love a stock DR more than a stock 690? I thought you had mega bucks spent on suspension etc to make the DR loveable but never did that with the 690.

    I also thought that the low gear and top gear ratios between the two bikes were pretty much identical but the 690 just feels low in 6th because it has the power to pull more.

    I love the DR because it is a cheap bike that gets the job done and has provided so much fun for so many people.

    My theory is that many people in NZ gel quickly with DRs because the first motorcycle they learnt to ride on was the family farm bike :)

    BTW I have put 20 000km (total for bike 42 000km) on my 690 and have not had a single mechanical failure so I have a good impression on reliability so far. Much of the riding is quite hard offroad.

    I went to a trail ride last weekend where there were 500 riders. My 690 was the only bike not trailered to the event. I rode it 350km each way plus the 100km of the trail ride and had a ball!
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    Any sources to back that up?
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  6. sprouty115

    sprouty115 Long timer

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    Can you explain that? What motard platform with a trellis frame and the new LC4 engine predates the 2007 690 Baja?
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    Anders- 690R

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    This thread definitely has some threadfest potential :-)
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  8. Anders-

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    I'd argue with that and say all 690 owners like their bikes - otherwise they wouldn't own them...
    Same goes for the people who purchased the boat anch... err, DR650's :lol3
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  9. cyclopathic

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    Depends on criteria. Reliability? Price? Ease to ride? Specific requirements (DS vs RTW?)

    But you are right there will be no challenge if 690 is getting canned.
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    Point taken, I had just performance in mind, but of course there's other factors as well.
    As for the 690 canned, I guess the 701 is there to take over. Will be interesting to see what ktm has up their sleeve in the 6-7-800 cc range.
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  11. B1

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    a stock DR650 versus a stock 690? for the money or long adventure riding i'd still go the DR. but for sheer fun and ignoring the money involved probably the 690 as the DR engine is badly corked when stock!

    i don't think i spent a fortune on the DR suspension. i covered three series of upgrades, the first could be as cheap as $40 but the top upgrade was plex valves up front (US$200) and revalve/custom shaft/heavier spring for the shock (about US$400). probably a similar cost to getting the 690 working properly too?

    yes the first gear on the DR is ridiculously high as covered in the vids. the DR is riddled with known issues that suzuki blatantly ignores unless it could cost them court cases or being sued (again all covered in the vid series).

    but for the money most of us choose to overlook these and just fix them. and of course many 690 owners feel the same way but i felt for the cost of the bike KTM should be fixing more of the problems before they roll off the factory floor - just a peronal opinion of course. :)
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  12. sprouty115

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    I see the end for the 690, but the 701, with the new engine and other mods, isn't going anywhere provided it sells. It also certainly won't be replaced by an 800cc twin. That just doesn't make sense to me, from a weight perspective.

    Edit to add - not suggesting KTM won't bring out a bigger twin, I just don's see them positioning it as a replacement for a big single.
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    Yeah new Husky = old Berg, same people. They look to be more thorough bunch and they can improve and sort things out.

    If 800cc mill is what they say the 690 is too close in weight, HP and price, so unless AJP PR7 is all that there's any point in 690.

    Plus with MotoGP effort katoom R&D euros must be tight.
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    An 800 single or twin?
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    Twin as in their Duke hooligan vids
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    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    If you had posted this thread a year ago, I wouldn't have bought a 690.:shog Shortly after buying it, I came to the same conclusions you did.:becca If I could find somebody to trade me for a well farkeled DR650, I would gladly make the swap, plus some cash on their end of course.

    BTW, you riding videos always give me a chuckle.:oscar
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  17. Takataka

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    Sure.
    Perhaps if KTM stopped spending R&D on the 690 now and just kept selling it "as is" for the next 30 years, we could have a cheap Euro alternative to the DR650 :lol3
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    tHEtREV Encouragement award recipient. tEAM iDIOT.

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    As I said, they dropped the LC4 engine in 07 when the 690 came out and borrowed the LC4 name.

    They used the name, nothing else, they share no parts in common, where as there is a clear link between the first KTM engine named the LC4 and the last, with swapable parts between the 350, 400, 540, 612, 620, 625, 640 and 660.

    So while you are correct that they named the 690 LC4, it is an LC4 engine by name only.

    It is just a case of a marketing department being lazy, or trying to capitalise on the original LC4's legendary reliability.:D
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    LC4 simply means Liquid Cooled 4 Stroke.
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