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Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by 2whlin, Oct 8, 2017.
Finally some more Orange porn!!!
You’re going to have to explain that. I rode a friends TRX850 years ago when my own bikes were an 850 LeMans and 75 900SS. It felt and sounded every bit a 90 degree V-twin, just a little sewing-machine-like, without the off-kilter idle that helped make my Duke arguably the best cafe racer ever made. Much more V character in that Yamaha in my opinion than any 75 deg twin I have owned.
I’m only talking about sound and feel, nothing about torque figures - an off-road 500+cc bike has more torque than I will ever use anyway.
I spent 2 years and just under 40K miles on my SE in Latin America in punishing conditions and didn't have any mechanical issues that weren't self inflicted. And I can't recall one rider I encountered on any of those "tried and tested" brands who weren't having mechanical issues of some sort. I think you're assigning metrics to the KTM buyer that don't mirror the motivations behind their purchases.
It appears to have a hydro clutch in the video. All the prototypes had manual clutch or am i seeing things
Looks like a cable to me:
Looks production ready to me!
Needs more orange
Its gonna slay
It might come out good, but "ultimate race" just makes me go
KTM is talking about the "Ultimate Race" to get the 790 into showrooms in time..
to sell a bunch before electric bikes from farther east steal their lunch.
screw them things... mine must go 'suck, squeeze, bang, blow' or I'll find something else to do
im hanging out for a usable electric bikes. nearly silent and more torque from 1% throttle than a rocket 3? sign me up!
pydons been riding an alta and thinks its the mutt nuts.
It has such weird proportions that I can't tell how big or small it is. I hope they give out exact specs for wheelbase etc. so that it can be mapped on CycleErgo.
Electric bikes will rule WHEN they can travel 250+ miles, charge in 15 minutes and are the same weight or lighter than what we currently have. Please look into your crystal ball, cars are almost there with a substantial weight and cost penalty. Yes they have a low CG. Would you buy a 790 Electric Adventure R for US$ 23,995 ?
Where was that photo taken?
That's a 15 year plus vision. We should have plenty of gas guzzling options in the near future!
Oh yeah, I forgot I'm supposed to be serious on this thread. Sorry. Don't worry about those electric bikes. The Big Four sure don't, and it's their lunch.
For the record, I'm pretty damn sure the 790 is gonna be a great motorcycle, maybe one of the best ever, maybe even the Grail of Adventure Bikes, the One to do it All Well, the Big-Enough Small-Enough Moto that will satisfy so many riders in so many circumstances. I'm on my fourth bike that I thought might be It. Wait, no, fifth. The 790 might be sixth, but so far the 690 is working for me.
Here's my take on electric motos (and why what you're describing is way, way off).
The Tesla Model S can do several hundred miles on a charge and charge fairly quickly - but it's also super aerodynamic and has a battery which is a huge fraction of its total weight.
My KLR 650 weighs in at 480lbs with a full ~6 gallons of gas. That makes it about 8.5% gasoline (energy) by weight, if you count the weight of the tank itself. By comparison, a Model S has a 1,200lb battery and weighs 4,650lbs on a good day. That's 26% energy by weight.
My KLR gets almost exactly 50mpg, which is good compared to my pickup, but not good compared to modern sedans. The Model S would get, by my estimation, probably 30mpg on the highway if it had a modern engine. So figure that with a 300 mile range for the tesla, a motorcycle with 200 miles of range would need a battery with the same chemistry and packaging as the Tesla's weighing in at 480 lbs on its own (very conservative). We've got a long way to go, but I'm excited for it.
Now my brain hurts.