KTM 990 SMT Motorcycle FUEL PUMP ???

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  1. AQUN

    AQUN RIDE SAFE RIDE ON

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    Has any one have any exp with the new KTM 990 SMT.

    I have had problems with my 990 adv. fuel pump.

    dose the new 990 smt have the same fuel pum system as the 990adv ??? there fore it could have the same cronic fuel problems.. if so.:ear
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  2. some_finn

    some_finn Wannabe Adventurer

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    I dunno if it's the same system but I haven't had any issues. Now have 17000 or 18000 km on the odo, can't remember which... Already two months without riding! Damn winter... :(:

    ETA: And haven't heard of anyone else having fuel pump probs either, FWIW.
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  3. Guy Jinbaiquerre

    Guy Jinbaiquerre Monorail Conductor

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    4,000+km on my SM-T, no problems at all so far! :D
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  4. Falcon4

    Falcon4 Adventurer

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    What were the fuel pump probs?
    What did it do?
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  5. 1WD

    1WD The Converted

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    A mate of mine just bought a SM-T.. His fuel light isn't working..

    Apparently there's no fuel light sender unit in the fuel pump (?)...

    Here's the kicker, he's been told by KTM Australia that it's an OPTION!!

    Anyone else had the same problem?
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  6. Spark01

    Spark01 V-Twin

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    Option???

    When i used 15liter my fuel light goes on.
    Maybe something wrong with the dashboard or the fuel level sensor inside the fuel pump
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  7. Joe

    Joe Debaser

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    Mine also has the light as standard.
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  8. cpmodem

    cpmodem Orange Caveman

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    It is supposed to be standard equipment, your dealer needs to get up to date on the big Katooms. Your mate's may not have been shipped with a sender installed. Its happened before on several SMT's. Some troll on the assembly line prolly stepped out for a smoke break :bubba and forgot to install one. Have the steeler get a hold of KTM Australia. This should be a warranty item. Meanwhile tell him to watch his tripmeter and tank up early.
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  9. 1WD

    1WD The Converted

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    Interestingly it was KTM Australia that told him (via his dealer) that it's an option. It seems now that they shipped him a new fuel pump with the sender in it as a 'good will' gesture, but they still maintain that it's an option...

    Anyone have a email address for someone in Austria that he can go higher up the chain with... As obviously KTM Australia don't give a shit.
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  10. cpmodem

    cpmodem Orange Caveman

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    Interesting that KTM Oz would say this when their own website in the Specs says that the Ozzy SMT has a reserve.
    Fuel Capacity approx. 19L / 3.7L reserve

    Also, from the 2011 SMT Owners' Manual:
    2011 SMT Fuel Capacity.jpg
    Unless KTM makes a special Ozzy fuel petcock with a reserve position, there's something fishy Down Under.
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  11. 1WD

    1WD The Converted

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    Def something fishy.

    I'm pretty annoyed for him. Especially since he had been giving me shit for owning a KTM for all these years, and now he's got one and is having nothing but issues....
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  12. cpmodem

    cpmodem Orange Caveman

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    Don't tell me that no none in OZ finds it odd that a motorcycle would or even could be certified in any modern country without a fuel gauge, warning light, or other way of letting the operator know when they were in need of fuel. There is a huge liability in an action such as that.

    You say your mate has been plagued with problems with his SMT. What other problems has he had? I've heard nothing but accolades from folks over here in the USA.
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  13. Spark01

    Spark01 V-Twin

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    In Europe the same, only minor issues

    I had a coolwater leak at purchase, another hose clamp fixed the problem(only 1 or 2 other known owners who had this problem).
    And my side stand Hall Switch failed after 7000km(only 1 more known owner).
    Coolwater temp sensor failed (1 known owner)

    Brake caliper bolts can be a p.i.t.a to remove i destroyed 1 and my torx bit.(3 other owners known)
    You need a proper industrial trox bit and some heating to remove those easy.
    [​IMG]

    And of course the more standard KTM issues: Clutch slave cylinder and herky/jerky EFI

    And the 2009 models have problems that the chain can hit the frame
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    fix: new chain guide 630.04.066.100 (also applicable on the other SM models)
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  14. Too Tall

    Too Tall Been here awhile

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    The wife's 990SMT came without the low fuel sensor on the fuel pump. Caused her to run out-of-gas on the first tankful. Fortunately, a couple on a cruiser brought her some free gas and simply said "just pay it forward!

    KTM warranteed the fuel pump and all is fine now. Just wish the fuel mileage was a little better. Great bike that brings a smile to your face.:clap
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  15. hacksaw55

    hacksaw55 Been here awhile

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  16. TheBuster

    TheBuster n00b

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    I have just had my fuel pump replaced in my 2009 990 SMT, so I can confirm that it does suffer the same problems as the Adventure. I've done about 30,000 miles on the KTM including the whole length of the Pan American Highway from Ushuaia, Argentina to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska on it. Whether it's down to some of the crap fuel that went into the tank through South America (unlikely in my opinion) or just running the bike constantly for months on end at low fuel levels (and thus uncovering the fuel pump) I don't know. Basically the bike was ridden everyday for about 300-700 miles over three months. Thankfully the pump only started to go after I'd made it to Prudhoe, and I had zero problems with the bike prior to that.

    Just so you know, the first signs of it going are basically lack of power when you open the throttle, especially when the fuel pump gets hotter as your ride, and eventually overheats and stops working. It's definitely heat related, as it manifested itself less on cold mornings and evenings and when fresh cold fuel was put into the tank from petrol stations.You'll eventually reach a point where you can only ride the bike using the tiniest of throttle openings, and have to stop every 50 miles or to refill the tank with more fuel. I did about 2500 miles in Alaska and Canada with the bike in this condition!

    Incidentally, I know of two 2010 Adventures that did the same trip as me last year and both their fuel pumps had to be replaced. All the KTM dealers I've spoken to are in complete denial about the whole thing, but that's too be expected I guess, as nobody wants bad press.

    After doing a bit of research it turns out that the fuel pump part numbers for the SMT and the Adventure are different although obviously both suffer the same chronic failure eventually.

    Just thought I'd get it out there so everybody knows.
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  17. Spark01

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    To bad that you had this problem,

    I did not read any problem about this on KTM forums in europe.
    But i read a lot about crappy fuel in the america's. this isn't a problem in europe
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  18. 1WD

    1WD The Converted

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    I agree, the quality of fuel and the lack of maintenance to the fuel pump (filters) makes the pump work too hard then this causes it to fail.

    The pump is the same as the ADV range, just that the SMT version has a low fuel sender unit in it.
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  19. julesmt

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    No problems with my SMT, now 30.000 km on the clock. I`ve never heard of any problems with 990 (avd, sm, superduke) fuel pumps in europe. I`ve heard of clogging fuel filters, but only in countries with questianable fuel quality.
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  20. seh750

    seh750 Been here awhile

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    When people talk about the "crappy" fuel in America, what exactly are they talking about? Is the formula of the fuel different? Is it the ethanol content? Is there debris in the fuel in the USA that isn't present in Europe?
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