KTM 990SMT vs Tiger 1050 ABS

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by compaq1720, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. compaq1720

    compaq1720 n00b

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    People,

    these 2 bikes weigh the same and have same power, but I expect them to be very different because of 2/3 cylinders.

    Anybody tried them both?

    I am a 6.2" rider, are these bikes good size for me do u think.

    I will try them both and see what suits me better for road blasting/circuit but some europe road travel too.

    What do u think of the ABS on the Tiger, how lifesaving is it.
    What if I found a second hand without ABS, would it be wrong to buy it anyway?

    Thanks!!!

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  2. GB

    GB . Administrator

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    The 990SMT isn't coming to north america.. :(: Pity.. If it were, it would be on my short list. :deal

    ABS can save you under certain conditions, but also adds complexity and cost.. :nod

    This thread will eventually be moved to Road Warriors.
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  3. 5th-Elefant

    5th-Elefant Long timer

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    The MCN review of the KTM was gushing. They raved about it as a practical sports bike for the road. I don't remember the Tiger reviews being anything like as enthusiastic.
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  4. longdog uk

    longdog uk Been here awhile

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    There is almost a £1500.00 price difference in the Tiger's favour here in the UK.

    I rode a Tiger 1050 and almost traded my Uly for it. Yes, the Tiger really is that good!!!

    By the way, I'm 6'2" and the Tiger gave a VERY comfortable ride with good wind protection. It also has lovely motor!

    I guess you want to know the reason I didn't change my Uly? The Tiger just didn't have that visceral quality that the Uly has and if I didn't have my Uly, I'd certainly buy a Tiger, almost certainly without ABS.
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  5. stevh0

    stevh0 Super Retard.

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    Waiting for them to arive in Sa, Hopefully we will test one.

    More feedback l8er ...
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  6. Bikeaddict

    Bikeaddict Bikeless Due To Recession

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    I test rode a Tiger when it first came out. I am 6ft and the ergos fitted me almost perfectly save the handlebar position which was a bit forward (easily fixable). The motor is simply fantastic and the ride is plush. I rode it for an hour through traffic but on open roads as well. I noticed a slight weave at hte front when charging on fast curves but it could be due to the tyres or maybe something w/ the suspension setup. To sum it up, a comfortable bike w/ character and some second thoughts regarding fast riding.
    My KTM experience comes from a 950 Adv. 04 model and the engine that the 990SMT has is an evolution of that motor. The 950 was an excellent bike, I had it for a year. It had a raw feeling which I guess stays w/ the new models as well although a bit refined as I hear. The most amazing thing that the KTM had was that I felt safe when riding fast on the road or off it. Though my skills in dirt riding are limited the bike's setup inspired confidence. So I would expect top notch suspension, brakes, chassis and overall fell. Yes I would be more biased towards the orange company but then again you'll soon learn cause sometime next week I'll test ride the SMT and will be posting my impressions. If I had the money I would be torn between the two as well. The Tiger ( a white one please) is far cheaper and w/ the money that you save you could put an ohlins shock and fork springs and have some serious fun which definitely is the case w/ the katoom. So, ride them and decide :freaky
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  7. Fredde_M

    Fredde_M Adventurer

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    I'm also 6.2" and I have tried them both.

    The 990 SMT is more aggresive, both regarding comfort, brakes (super strong) and engine. It's a sport bike with travel bags.

    I didn't dare to test the Tiger ABS-system, but I think Triumph got some critics about slow ABS interaction. The Tiger is more soft and comfy.

    //F
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  8. RaY YreKa

    RaY YreKa Palanquins RTW

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    I think either is going to make you smile. The KTM looks sexier though :deal
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  9. bunny_punia

    bunny_punia 18,634 feet : Oh Yes!

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    Is the KTM 990 SMT a good enough option for a 8 day, 1500km ride through Austrian and Italian Alps?
    What kind of an average fuel economy am I looking at here? 15-16km to a liter?
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  10. tjader

    tjader OASR Davao

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    I have had the 2010 KTM SMT for 1000kms now and it does around 14+ km/Li

    Its a super comfortable ride and I can go all day on it! No vibration and relaxed riding position.

    I have equipped it with a GIVI E450 Top Case and E21 Panniers. I have gone 150kmh on it with no trouble, May try to go 200+ this weekend on the hi-way and will post how it goes.

    They talk about helmet buffeting at speed and I am 5'10" and never really noticed it up to 150kph. Will give feedback if I go faster sometime in future.
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  11. stevh0

    stevh0 Super Retard.

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    175kph + gives you major buffeting. Im 6'5 though. I could not get it fast than 208kph two up.

    I could get it way into fourth on the back wheel though! That thing loves wheelies!
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  12. longdog uk

    longdog uk Been here awhile

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    Update:

    2 months after this posting, I eventually traded my beloved Uly for a Tiger 1050. Ten days after buying the Tiger, I went touring in France and did 2,500 miles in a week. It was really comfortable without any heat issues and I got 56.7 miles to the UK gallon after riding everything between gravel tracks to cruising at an indicated 110mph so I was impressed.

    But........ in spite of it's wonderful motor, excellent comfort, faultless operation, outstanding economy, good handling and superb quality of finish, Tiger and I never really gelled together. I was always comparing it to my old Uly, (and the Uly certainly had some faults), and I resolved to sell the Tiger.

    In March this year after 9 months of Tiger ownership and a lot of miles, I thought I would sell the Tiger and buy another Uly, one of the few 2010 models. Unfortunately, the HD dealer over here screwed about with my order and delivery dates and I told them to take a hike. 18 hours later, I was laying in the road after a collision with a van that wrote off the Tiger and almost did for me too. Today, 3 months after, I have just taken my first bike ride of about 90 miles on my ST1300A to see if my shoulder and foot would hold out, (it did! WooHoo!!!!), so I am now looking forward to getting back in the saddle on a regular basis.

    The replacement for my Tiger? There are a few on my list to keep my ST1300A company such as a Honda Varadero, Suzuki WeeStrom, Kawasaki Versys, Honda Africa Twin, Honda Transalp or even my old Uly, or I might just crack on with my SRX600 project, we'll see! :evil

    So although the Tiger 1050 is a superb bike, it just didn't suit me
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  13. jphish

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    Hey Long Dog - jphish here. Hate to hear of your Tiger clash with a Lorry (or is that Lorrie? anyway...) Glad you're ok and well enough to ride again. I know alot of fellow riders that went down in the last year - I thankfully skipped 09... since i wrecked my KLR on 08. Coincidence we both have / had St1300, Uly & Tigers. I've still got all 3. Dont ride the Honda much because I got the 06 Tiger this winter, and just finished a 2 month 13K mile trip on the Uly. she's an 08 with 28K mi now - a bit grimmy, road weary & in need of some service at the moment, but still running strong. Thought of selling the Uly when i bought the Tiger - but that visceral nature of the beast you mentioned kept me from dwelling on its faults & appreciating her nature. Very fun, capable, underrated machine, as you know. If Buell would have stayed in the game I was going to trade for an 2012 Uly - he would have had it 'dialed in' by then. They made significant improvements every year without all the fanfare. Anyway - much to be thankfull for as you're OK and have lots of rides to choose from. PS - visited my old friend Martin Yates from Cardiff (US citizen now, after 25 years got tired of dodging the border patrol) Now in Calif - he's still a football (Rugby?) maniac & finding pubs here that broadcast the games from across the pond can be a challenge. But he's very accomplished at finding pubs. Take care on whatever you end up riding. j
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