KTM Australia, Why do you rip us off!!!

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  1. raafrebel

    raafrebel Adventurer

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    I would like to know why , here in Australia, we get bent over and f^cked in the ass with their prices. here are few examples.

    Bike. I paid $22,000 for a run out model. USA pay only around $12,000 for left over model

    Top Box Australia, $950 PLUS an extra $180 for the bracket. USA I bought one there for $350

    Touring screen Australia, $385.00. USA I got a quote for $160, But they wont ship to Oz

    The list goes on. As you can see, it costs more than double to own a KTM here in Australia. Now one might say that its a long way to Australia, yes it is, and i dont mind paying a few dollars mor , but paying double and tripple is just not right.
    I shipped my Ducati race bike from the USA for under $2000. (but USA bikes Dont comply to Australian standards so i cant get one registered here)

    Our Australian dollar at the moment is actually worth 8% more than the US dollar, but we still pay more. What the hell is going on??????

    I travel to the USA every year and fill my bags up with bits , but not everyone can get there. Also, USA KTM dealers wont ship KTM parts to Australia, so for the most , we HAVE to pay Australian rip off prices.

    WTF is going on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  2. crazybrit

    crazybrit Long timer

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    Have you considered putting your complaint (together with the price examples listed) in a written correspondance to KTM HQ Austria? List on the Touring Screen is US$165 so $385 is remarkable. I'd ask KTM to provide a rationale. Complaining here won't achieve much.
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  3. fluff34567

    fluff34567 Long timer

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    its the same all over the world.....

    take the prices in switzerland for example - more expensive than UK or germany or france......

    same with cars in UK, more expensive than cars in europe.... on the fli side i priced up a car in switzerland last week, the exact same car in germany was £5000 cheaper, in the UK it was £4000 cheaper.....

    you can write and complain but dont expect any rational answer.
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  4. sabink

    sabink Been here awhile

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    In Bulgaria, Europe the price for a new Adventure current model is about $16500 Australian dollars and here the market is very small. Bulgarian dealer sells less than 10 bikes per year. It's not normal what you pay. I think I can send you a bike with air transport and it will be cheaper (depending on the taxes).
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  5. Knackers

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    Got it in one. You paid for it knowing that it is a rip off. Don't worry I did too :evil. KTM charge what the market will accept. We are used to being gouged so pay accordingly. It is the same for everything. Did you know the yanks pay less for a Commodore even though holden have to ship them, make them in LH drive and sell them in vastly lower volumes?
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  6. kevxtx

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    I just got a quote for a slipper clutch for my SMR 990 from KTM Australia quoted AUD$3000.00, just bought a new STM slipper clutch from Italy AUD$875.00 Shipped.
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  7. Bonsai Elephant

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    990ADV in Israel - $40,000.

    Parts work out equivalently expensive.

    But it is import duty, vehicle tax, sales, tax, VAT, not KTM screwing us, maybe it is the same in Oz?
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  8. Lenz1

    Lenz1 Been here awhile

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    The listed price for the 2011 990 Adventure is ~ $23k. The price in Australia is ridiculous compared to prices in the US considering the current value of the Australian dollar against the US $. The Australian dollar is also high against the Euro.

    KTM Australia - I'm definitely looking to buy, but if the current price of the 990 Adventure is maintained at bullshit levels I'll buy a used bike or just deal with another manufacturer.

    The whole marketing strategy of high pricing and low turnover is a nonsense. Marketing 101 teaches the value of establishing a high enough brand profile and representation to generate popular brand support and interest. For fuck sake - price lower, sell more, higher profile, become the popular standard by which other manufacturers would be judged ......... SELL MORE
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  9. LocuL

    LocuL Gnarly Infantry

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    hmmm wasn´t the with registration, toll and tax? How much without?

    Denmark : Bike cost 100.000(180% tax/reg) = 280.000,- in all. That is 180% for a numberplate!!! :cry

    I bought my 04 Adv S in 2006. Brought it home from Germany for 58.000,-. Then i had to registrate it to get my numberplate. 2 years old, 33.000km cost me around 59.000,- for the numberplate.


    It is insane and i even prefere to ride it offroad...

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  10. jamesbrown

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    This is a large part of the picture; local taxes, operating costs, shipping costs, competition, exchange rates and a thousand other things related to supply and demand all affect local market prices. I'm afraid it's pretty much universal with consumer goods. For example, I just purchased a new laptop in the US for $900. The same laptop in the UK is 900 GBP, which is 60% more at current exchange rates.

    I think it's similar in South America - I've read somewhere about horrendous prices for new KTMs in Brazil and other countries.
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  11. ShaftyNZ

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    Yeah Boys I hear ya - an identical thread running on www.kiwibiker.co.nz . I'll have peeled, saucer sized eyes on prices in the US when I land there in 13 days!!
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  12. Bonsai Elephant

    Bonsai Elephant Banned

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    Piss off Yank - no one likes a show off.

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  13. jamesbrown

    jamesbrown Lefty tighty.

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    :gfys Miller. I'm going to make an MC ramp out of my old laptops this weekend, what with them being so cheap :fitz
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  14. Lenz1

    Lenz1 Been here awhile

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    Now you're just being rude.

    The US marketing machine and all their suppliers understand the importance of brand exposure and "trend" / popular support. However, it pisses me off bigtime that regardless of the marketing ploys that are in place in the US, the exchange rate of the Euro (manufacturer) Vs the Australian $ has shifted to a higher relative Australian $ but KTM Australia are still increasing pricing.

    Bloody beats me how they expect to generate sales and an active brand profile / exposure.
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  15. Bonsai Elephant

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    Hope they're not Windows or you are guaranteed to crash.

    :lol3
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  16. Soberman001

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    This has a lot to do with it. Many countries, including those in this post, have huge VAT, Import and other local taxes. Also, registrations are a ton of money. When I lived in Argentina, the cost of a US vehicle imported to Argentina was taxed 50% more than a domestic vehicle made in-country. This had nothing to do with Ford trying to screw the Argentines. It was the Government screwing everyone.

    Those thinking this is all KTM's fault, should see if you can get the tax/import regs for EU vehicles and parts. Also, what does one pay for a KTM in ahhh.. Austria?

    I am not saying lower volumes in a country don't mean higher costs, but it is a much smaller fraction of the mark up than you guys think.
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  17. jamesbrown

    jamesbrown Lefty tighty.

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    :lol3 No worries, replacement parts are cheap, apparently. :D
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  18. hornet_sv

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    I too have recently discovered the huge price difference with the Australian market for parts especially.

    I'm after some protection items for my SMT.

    The Crash bars for the tank are over $AU 340 here in AU, but advertised in the states for $US 214.99 thats 58% more expensive here in AU. And considering the $AU is buying $US 1.06 that makes it worse!

    Likewise the skid plate is $AU459, and advertised for $US 285.95 in the states. That is 60% more :(

    I think I'll just buy after market parts here in AU that will work out cheaper and probably better parts.
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  19. ADVMax

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    It was Ausralian and other overseas dealers who couldn't (wouldn't)compete with U.S. dealers on price and bitched enough to Austria about it. I know some great dealers that did a lot of international business until the last year or so when the mandate came out of the factory that no U.S. dealers can ship internationally anymore.
    A U.S. dealer that ships internationally now as I understand it can lose his franchise.


    Squeeky wheel.

    Grease.

    :dunno
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  20. ADVJake

    ADVJake ***** dweller

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    there's always a way around the rules. There is no way i'd pay the Australian prices for KTM parts.
    There are ways of getting parts from the USA, just PM me asking how.
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