KTM emissions label recall 2009,10,11

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  1. catalina38

    catalina38 Long timer

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    One of my riding partners and I just got letters from KTM USA for a emissions label recall for 2009/10/11 990s. It is a voluntary recall except in California where you won't be able to register the bike with out the new label and certificate. It doesn't mention a smog equipment inspection but I'll call my local dealer this week and see what they know:eek1
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  2. MrMike

    MrMike No self control

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    I think it is most/all KTM's since I got that letter too for my 09 530. But since it's voluntary I don't think it will have any affect on the registration. Maybe if trying to bring an out of state bike in then maybe they will look for it. I don't know but I think I'll have it done just to avoid a possible problem in the future.
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  3. henryroten

    henryroten Been here awhile

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    The letter also says stuff like "your right to participate in future recalls" and the kicker " failure to do so could legally be determined to b a lack of proper maintenance of your vehicle." Might as well get it done.
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  4. geometrician

    geometrician let's keep going...

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    From the KTM TB1204 Bulletin:

    "KTM North America in conjunction with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) is
    conducting a voluntary emission label recall involving the above listed models. A printing
    error may be found on the Vehicle Emission Control Information (VECI) and Evaporative
    Control (EVAP) labels, stating the wrong engine, permeation and evaporative families.
    Replacement of the labels is mandatory and must be done to ensure proper compliance
    with government regulations.


    KTM is voluntarily participating with California (not you)... as opposed to being ordered. It is mandatory (for us dealers) that the customer is contacted and the stickers are replaced

    The TB1204 recall to replace your sticker might not seem like a big deal but many states now require this sticker to be on the vehicle to be inspected by DMV officer or qualified State Inspection station (in some cases yearly). Those that don't currently will be soon as each state moves into national compliance with emissions & registration on the DMV National Database, and of course, legislates another way to hit us with a fee or penalty. So registration & renewal now is affected as well as selling the bike later.

    In some cases, a photograph will do with it in position on the frame. There have been inmates in trouble when they tried to register the bike and their cables/hoses have rubbed the printing off the sticker or destroyed it altogether. I wrap mine with high-quality 3M clear packing tape to protect it for future use...

    The vehicles covered are indeed over several year span however it in no way is "most/all". We've sold hundreds of bikes over the span of this recall and have less than 20 vehicles that fall under TB1204.
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  5. loner

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    I just called my dealer and was told that this is only a sticker swap deal. There is no inspection. They did require an appointment, and the swap should take 20-30 minutes. The dealer is Thousand Oaks Powersports. Sounds simple enough. (This will be the only time this particular service department ever sees my bike).

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  6. catalina38

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    " Important message for California residents
    The California Air Resources Board (CARB) requires vehicle emissions label recalls be completed prior to California registration renewal. Uncorrected emission label recalls will result in the inability to renew your California vehicle registration.
    At the time of emission label recall completion, your California authorized KTM dealer will issue a "Proof of correction certificate".
    Keep this certificate and if required present it the Department of Motor vehicles when renewing your registration as proof of recall completion."

    I had a similar recall happen to a Ford diesel I used to own, for a required ECU reflash for California emissions.
    At the time some owners weren't happy with the trucks performance after the reflash so many owners didn't have it done and the California DMV and CARB held up registration renewal until completed.:puke1
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  7. catalina38

    catalina38 Long timer

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    Good news, sticker only
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  8. 68deluxe

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    Sticker swap? Why can't they just put the new one on top of the old one?
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  9. SF_Rider

    SF_Rider Been here awhile

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    this would make sense. And we can't have the state involved and have it make sense too.

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  10. ian408

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    It's the stupidest thing I've heard as far as recalls go. Most affected models are several years old by now. It would have been easier to just tell whomever "if you see this, it's wrong. Use these numbers.".
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  11. Shunka

    Shunka Supervision Required

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    :bash

    But then how would CARB justify their continued existence? :norton
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  12. Alleycatdad

    Alleycatdad Unbunch yer panties!

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    Just called on mine.

    "Oh yeah, we have those in stock, no problem..."

    The dealer is an hour away, so we will see.

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  13. DLH

    DLH Lurch the Lurker

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    Yeah...I got the notice as well.
    I guess I'll take hours out of a day to go down and have the dealer put a new sticker on. I know this is very important to assure clean air standards.

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  14. RoundOz

    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    Try a 9 hour round trip to my closest dealer! Send me the sticker! I think I can handle it from there...


    Will have to see if they will be willing to do that...
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  15. BELSTAFF

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    There are (4) four stickers on the bike--(3) three under the seat & (1) under the right side tank. guess which one need to be replaced

    Yep the 15-minute replacement sticker takes 2.5 hr from arrival at dealer to completion for CARB compliance.

    & heres the kicker you have to have the sticker verified for VIN# then KTM overnites the sticker to the dealer for replacement, so two trips to the dealer just so the commiefornia bikes can be registered on the left coast.
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  16. LoFlow

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    Odd, all I did was hand my letter to the dealer and they gave me a sticker and off I went. Sounds like I got lucky for once.
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  17. BELSTAFF

    BELSTAFF ADV NOMAD

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    Yes you are lucky, I was told that the stickers were VIN # specific & KTM had to verify your bike Vin to the new sticker:deal

    Who knows, any way my 990, which is for sale in the ADV Flea Market ,is now legal to go to Calif if it wants too :lol3
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  18. ian408

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    No kidding. That's one agency that could be flushed down the crapper.
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  19. ian408

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    Oh man. This recall is so full of FAIL.

    For the 990, dealer says they will need to take the tanks off. Same with the 530 but as you know, that's a whole lot easier than the 990. Dealer also didn't receive but two stickers for the 530...and they've used them.

    Neither sticker has anything that most owners care about on it. Which leads me to believe it would have been easier to send KTM dealers a service bulletin to correct whatever typo someone made.
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  20. MrMike

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    I went to get an appointment for my 530 and the guy said just bring it in. He showed me an envelope with a bunch of tags. I rode my bike over, they found a place where it could be seen and they just stuck one on. I don't think they pulled an old one off. 15 minuets total. I wouldn't be surprised to find that each state has it's own requirement as to how and where they have to put the new sticker on.
    I miss my 990 thats why I still follow the OC.
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