ktm hard parts heated grips

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  1. rockohlic

    rockohlic Been here awhile

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    just ordered from ktm and they just flash. Checked connections twice and cycled thru the switch and ignition switch many times with no luck.
    There was a thread on here about just this problem but I no can find.
    Ktm hard parts sent me an e-mail that said "lots of luck" Does any body have some good advice? Can I use a different switch? I hate to just piss away a hundred dollars! btw they went on 2005 950 adv.
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  2. HellSickle

    HellSickle Scone Rider

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    Try a jumper straight to the battery to see if this is a defective grip controller, or an issues with routing the power thru your switch. Maybe the switch can't handle the current. If so, you may need to install a relay.
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  3. rockohlic

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    both grips ohm out the same so I think the controller is the problem. Just want to know what other people have done with this same problem. And has anybody else had a problem with ktm not standing behind a product. I know it is electrical butI just purchased it!
    Can I put a 3 position switch on it? do I need a ballast?
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  4. Andrejs2112

    Andrejs2112 Been here awhile

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    Mine doing the same thing. I have not started to troubleshoot it yet. Can you buy just the controller?
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  5. renogeorge

    renogeorge Let's ride!!

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    Try holding the button in for about 3 seconds to get the green light on. Once you get that, push again and hold 1-2 seconds to move up to the next highest heat setting. Mine work fine once I figured this out.

    FWIW
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  6. rockohlic

    rockohlic Been here awhile

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    nah, hold for 3 sec and it goes off, hold for three more and it comes on flashing all the lights at once. Do this over and over till you sit in the corner and roll your shit into balls.
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  7. rockohlic

    rockohlic Been here awhile

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    hey andrejs2112, gonna go to radio shack and get a hi-med-low switch , I'll let ya know how it works.
    word of caution: ktm hard parts people not to helpful at all so buy with caution.
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  8. travelsomewhere

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    I had a pair go bad and that is what happened. try unplugging one grip and see if the other works by itself. when they all blink at once that is the system telling you something is wrong. i ended up having a the throttle side go bad. there are no repair parts and no help to be had. i just had to buy a new set. have them send you a new set. i also recommend you go to a local shop and buy an old throttle sleeve that they have laying around in the shop and cut a spall piece from it to fill the void at the end of the grip. i think that if you bend the heat fibers it can break them and there is a section at the end of the grip that is not supported. hope this helps.
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  9. rockohlic

    rockohlic Been here awhile

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    Actually the grips went on with no drama at all. Glue was used and they went on easily.
    Hot Grips ! only use Hot Grips, they stand behind their product.
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  10. AB13

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    I thru mine in the trash and put on some Oxfords work great! :D
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  11. Ogre1

    Ogre1 n00b

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    I had same prob my wires were crossed. It hard to tell from instruction but the wires are wrong. It took me two hours to figure out. Once I did they work great.
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  12. rockohlic

    rockohlic Been here awhile

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    thanks ogre1 - just figured it out myself. I feel like ass-wipe but those instructions fail to tell you to cross the wires, although when you think about it, it only makes sense.
    A little support from ktm- hardparts wooda been nice!
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  13. ciedema

    ciedema мотоциклист

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    80,000ks on mine and they haven't missed a beat.
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  14. Bowser

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    Mine did that from the moment I fitted them, took the control back to the shop and they confirmed it was busted straight out the box, swaped it out for a new one and its been ok ever since.
    I would suggest that you send it back for a replacement, that controler box is "shagged" (thats english speak for, broken beyond anyones ability to fix)
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  15. Ogre1

    Ogre1 n00b

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    "bora" Glad I could help:D
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  16. LTKernel

    LTKernel jack of all trades...

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    So at the risk of sounding like a special ed, I just have to swap the wires/spades on ACC2? I have that same issue described at the beginning of this thread.

    :baldy
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  17. offworlder

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    Lots of previous chatter about this: KTM heated grips are crap, and the controller is always the failure:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21277866#post21277866

    I've also tried Symtec (under grip radiators), which are a hassle to install, and aren't all that warm.

    I'm currently running the AME grips: http://amegrips.com/category/catalog/motorcycleoffroadheated
    While I haven't had much time with them - and they aren't as warm as the KTMs were (when they worked !) they are innovative in that the grip requires no glue, is same size/pattern as stock grips, each grip is detachable (via a socket connector), independently adjustable, and they come with a variety of throttle cams to match the bike's cam.
    I've read other inmates reviews that state they didn't last, we'll see….
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  18. Sikorsky

    Sikorsky The Man.

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    Looking at this thread after installing my KTM Hardparts grips. It took me a few tries to figure out what borborymus meant ........

    The wee KTM provided schematic is tough to read, especially when you're too lazy to walk into the house and grab your reading glasses. There are 2 wires from each grip. One plugs into the power harness, the other plugs into ground harness. Once you put on the reading glasses you see that the wires in the schematic cross. Thankfully only 10 minutes were killed figuring this one out, and yes a facepalm was self administered. :rofl
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  19. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Timely thread for us, I have a soggy warm n safe left grip so are replacing them with the Oxfords, we have the heatroller variable unit which works very well.

    Do any of you electro techs know if this combo will work or if we need to put on the controller that comes with them?

    Thanks gents
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  20. Vince

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    Andy take care that the Oxford controller doesn't separate the top from the bottom,mine has a cable tie around it after it happened.Still works OK though.The LEDs that show the temp are bloody hard to read in sunlight.You need to hold the buttons down for 3 sec to work them,easy to not read the directions and miss that.Plus they wont turn on unless they see 12 volts,sometimes that means engine start before you can turn them on.Not a bad gadget but finicky to use.I add foam grip puppy's over the grips,they are pretty hard standard,that makes them a bit thick but much nicer to hold and the heat still comes through.I
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