KTM LC8 Air Filter Kits by SW7

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Sporting Wood, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

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    You milliage is outstanding. Can you share your whole jetting setup? How about exhausts?
    Cheers.
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  2. Thumper996

    Thumper996 Been here awhile

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    I have the following now:

    Smog stuff removed
    FMF cans
    airbox snorkel removed, side doors on, stock filter

    Part Factory Pro kit and Part H2W kit for my jetting

    Main Jets 168R / 165F
    Pilot Jet #45
    Needles Factory Pro Ti needle 3 position from top
    IMS screws 2 turns
    Air Jet #70 as supplied by H2W to replace stock #50

    I am thinking about following with the new air system:

    Main Jets 170R / 168F

    And leave all else as is, i have new IMS remote adjusters so i can tune those without tank removal. :clap I could care less about fuel mileage, as long as she gets at least 30 MPG. Riding is SM sport style riding no ADV or tooling around and seeing the sites.
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  3. J10on4ds

    J10on4ds Adventurer

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    Well, you all at ADV have helped to convince me once again to part with hard earned money, for a superior product. I just placed an order. Thanks SW
    Jessica Johnson is paypal
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  4. TcRulz

    TcRulz Been here awhile

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    Hi Gefr, This is my set-up. It is the exactly the same jetting that I ran with a uni-filter precleaner and air box. The only difference being main jets. I'm in Australia (so fuel could be better), at 650 metres and run a single wings muffler with the insert fitted. My bike starts instantly, does not surge, does not smell of fuel, has clean plugs and exhaust and hammers to the rev limiter.

    Here's a picture which I think will make it easier to understand. http://www.ktm950.info/how/Orange ...e/jetting.html

    Now this is what I did. Jet size 80 goes from position 2 to 3. Replace the 80 with a 100 in position 2. Standard main air leak jet in position 1 stays. Replace the low-speed jet in position 4 with a 45 (from 42). Position 5 now has main jet 180 in the front carby and 182 in the rear. I should be running leaner than this with my altitude but this gives me a happy 42mpg (we have 4.5 litres to the gallon). Position 6 the starter jet stays at 68. My IMS in position 7 is now changed using the flexjets (2 turns out). Float level is set at 3mm.

    The slide operates quicker if you drill the two holes that are either side of the needle out to 3mm. I also moved my clip to 3 position from the top (2nd is standard - standard needles). But this is a change you can do easy with the carbs installed. Also my hoses are vented separately measuring 275mm for the front and 250mm for the rear. Position the hose clamps that hold the carbs so they can be undone from the right side (only right side tank needs to be removed to gain access to carbs:clap)

    All my jets came from RockymountainATV (dirt cheap) and if they didn't have it these guys are exceptional. http://www.showandgo.com.au/.

    I jetted this way due to the recommendations of a legend in OZ (K2m) that road with a wideband testing the best jets to get the right air to fuel ratio's.

    Disclaimer: Use at own risk but my only downfall is decel cackle and popping. Sound's very 'old school' (read ducati) and I don't mind it:D. At the end of the day the jets you need are as 'cheap as chips' and now everything is easy to get to, it's worth experimenting.
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  5. Sporting Wood

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    Hello and thanks! Will ship out today.:freaky
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  6. Sporting Wood

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    Pretty wild stuff! K2M has done more than anyone to figure out these carbs...

    Ever dyno'd this or checked it out with the AFR meter?
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  7. SpeedyR

    SpeedyR SE in the SE

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    here's a question- I just got my "sausage" filter for the SE (thanks!). On my 450 filters, I have always started with a new filter and used No-Toil filter oil and cleaner (oxyclean BTW). Somewhere I was thinking I read to NOT use No-Toil on the ITG filter, but in the info that came with the filter, it listed No-Toil as OK for use with the filter...

    anyone care to comment before I bugger up my filter. :)
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  8. Sporting Wood

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    The oil is good. According to the importer, they've had problems with filters ruined by the cleaner. Soap and water is the preferred cleaner.
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  9. Thumper996

    Thumper996 Been here awhile

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    Alright, then i am good to use no-toil to oil. The no-toil cleaner we use is a powder soap and you add water, so you got me a little confused there on not using that. That is what we use on all of our foam dirt bike filters as it is as about mild as you can get.
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  10. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

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    Great stuff.
    Cheers.
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  11. Sporting Wood

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    I'm just passing on what the filter importer is telling me.
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  12. Thumper996

    Thumper996 Been here awhile

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    Got'er installed on my 06 950 SM. Was actually easy to do. I took my time and didn't disconnect anything from the carbs. Just pulled all the lines up through the bottom of the air box and pulled air box out with all the carb stuff still connected.


    Starting off with the following setup for SM Sport Riding and tuning from there.

    FMF cans
    Part Factory Pro kit and Part H2W kit for my jetting
    Main Jets 170R / 168F
    Pilot Jet #45
    Needles Factory Pro Ti needle 4 position from top
    IMS screws 2 turns (Flex-Jet installed for easy adjustment)
    Air Jet #70 as supplied by H2W to replace stock #50
    Float Height 3.5MM


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  13. Sporting Wood

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    Love the pics, man. Get her dyno'ed and let me know how that wild jetting works out!


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  14. Tangai

    Tangai Been here awhile

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    I’m waiting for someone who has installed one of these on their 950 to give us a comprehensive report on how it runs and the fuel consumption.
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  15. JTS1

    JTS1 Dirt Enthusiast

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    Would like to purchase the kit for 950 SE. Are they avail and ready to ship? Thx
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  16. Sporting Wood

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    Yep, have a SE/SMR kit in stock. Get your order in and I'll ship tonight!

    Out of ADV/SM until a new shipment of filters arrives next week.
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  17. JTS1

    JTS1 Dirt Enthusiast

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    Payment sent. Looking forward to the install. Should i nix the canister and plumbing while im at it?
    Thx
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  18. Sporting Wood

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    Thanks!

    I would relieve my bike of all those troublesome plumbing lines first thing.*

    *For off road use only:D
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  19. Thumper996

    Thumper996 Been here awhile

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    Look what arrived today from Amazon :) Time to put the carb and crankcase vent filters on and then the tank


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  20. Meathead

    Meathead tin man

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    Have you ever known a freer-breathing engine to get poorer fuel economy?



    He is I and I am him. I made it up Mt. Mitchell, along the BRP yesterday - 6,500'-ish, and it still runs like the proverbial raped ape, thank you very much. I did the same thing we did with it that Saturday - 4,000 rpm, full-throttle loaded runs out of 2nd and 3rd. It's strong as an ox and, with those silly silencers out of the Akras, I'm sure I saved a coupla dozen lives.

    To Tangai's (indirect) request, I made certain to note gps trip odometer readings at fill-ups yesterday, and calculated mileage: 185 miles on 4.5 gallons = 41.1 mpg. I can't claim that my riding style reflects a concern for fuel mileage, so I'm sure it could do better, but I was too busy wringing it's neck and doing wheelies to care. I doubt that qualifies as "comprehensive," but it's enough for me to be satisfied. As for "how it runs" - again, I'm not certain what you're looking for, but there's no doubt the mid-range and top-end are significantly stronger. The thing just rips.


    I haven't had it apart again since our tuning day, and I'm confident our creative gasketing is holding up well, but I may order new stacks and have them on hand for the jetting swap at the Rendezvous.


    In conclusion, I'm a huge fan of Sporting Wood's filter dealio. The factory airbox is a nightmare and a PITA. This arrangement simplifies things dramatically, and there's no doubt the performance gains.


    Thanks again, mang. I feel like I've got my bike back!