KTM LC8 Exhaust and Auxillary Tank

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by neduro, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. mookymoo

    mookymoo Mookish Mook

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    Chaps, it takes 2 seconds to give that bracket a good pull out.
    If you drop the bike (on either side), check it, give it a pull for good measure.
  2. SocalCPA

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    I would second the fact that my bike is running cooler, by a bar or so at most times, even in the heat this weekend. I am running the Remus single. Vents should be good, had a good look at things while upgrading the springs too.
  3. SocalCPA

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    I think I got lucky, once I realized what the clanking was, I stopped to see the marks, then had to ride like a sissy the rest of the day.
  4. neduro

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    MookyMoo is correct, this is also stated in the instructions. We didn't have much room to work with in there, but you should have a good half inch of clearance to the swingarm.
  5. neduro

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    When I started Adventure Tank, it was for a very simple and selfish reason- I wanted more fuel range for my SE, and did not care for the only available option. I took a risk on making a mold for the tank, because I thought that aluminum is the wrong material to make a tank from and you can't make a single plastic tank, and I crossed my fingers and toes that I wasn't going to wind up with the world's most expensive extra 100 miles of fuel.

    The project turned out to be much more involved than I first imagined, but also much more fun. Hearing from people about how they loved the tank and 2 into 1, seeing pictures of my creations all over the world, and even coming out ahead on the project were all high points.

    People started asking for tanks for other models, and I realized that I didn't have the time to get them done. I was at a crossroads, and when my longtime riding friend Scott Bright (FORE! on this site) asked if he could help take the next step, I knew it was time. So, I sold Adventure Tank to Scott, and now I'm excited to see where it goes. I'm helping him with some aspects of developing new products (so that the lessons I learned the hard way don't go to waste!) and in the near future, he'll be announcing a tank for the F800GS, as well as for the 2008-up KTM dirtbikes. No timing yet on either of those, but they are in the works.

    Scott has been in the motorcycle business for a long time, and I've seen first hand that he knows his stuff and treats people right. I'm really excited to see where the business goes. If you have any questions, you can PM Scott, reach him via email at Scott@advtank.com, or even call him at (888) 403-2170.

    And above all, thanks for making it a fun ride. Nothing is more rewarding than hearing from folks about the places they've gone with something you made, and that is the part of this I'll miss the most.
  6. FORE!

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    This is where I chime in. I've handled the logistics on the previous run of tanks and I'm confortable leading AdvTank.com into the future with some COOL new products, as well as support for items already on customer's bikes.
    A little bit about me - I used to work for KTM for a 4 year stint, so I know the in's and out's of how that company works and thinks. I raced the ISDE in Slovakia 05 and Chile 07. I've been riding with Ned for about 8 years now racing and exploring. Dawn to Dusk this past Spring was an absolute HOOT, and I'm planning on being a regular on that ride. A couple weeks ago I got to ride with a bunch of guys on this forum outside of Pahrumph, which was a stellar trip. And I'm jealous of those of you who get to Rally on continents I've only read about, but someday.......
    If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to PM me as I am on ADVrider.net daily.

    Scott
  7. SocalCPA

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    Look, I am not complaining about the product, I think it is a great idea and it got me up to 240 miles. I am just sharing my install experience, and if bending is my last resort then I will do it, but I didn't want to damage the threaded inserts. I think that the $1000 I spent on this mod gives me the right to ask some questions, like "why is my gas tank boiling?", that was not in the instructions.

    Anyway, this is my bracket mod:
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  8. cyborg

    cyborg Potius Sero Quam Numquam

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    Scott, I wish AdvTank a bright future and look forward to new products. :thumb
    Thanks Ned for getting it going with an awesome tank! :bow

    Now, Scott while you are considering other than LC8's for side tanks, you may want to consider the EFI Yamaha WR250R. That little beastie is a true plated dual sport and is wildly poplular (like this 1200+ page thread) . It does need more fuel range because people put 10's of thousands of miles on them on and offroad and they are ultra reliable and very low maintence. I have a selfish reason because I own one :lol3 and I already have an AdvTank on my 990S :beer
  9. cyborg

    cyborg Potius Sero Quam Numquam

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    I didn't have a cap clearance problem on my '07 990S with OEM KTM racks, but the plastic cap after quite a bit of use got harder to seal tightly and the rubber gasket would often pop out whenever I took the cap off.

    I tried a metal gas cap on it and it works very well.

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    I had the little vent valve you show on your tank on another dirtbike and it leaks gas when the bike is on it's side in a tumble. I didn't like that. On the 990 I have the standard few loops of vent hose under my top rack plate, then down the rear fender. I installed a small inline sintered fuel filter midway to keep dust or muddy water from getting into the tank via the vent line. I have unfortunately had my 990 almost upside down several times in the Nevada desert, and it has been on it's side for extended periods in my garage and the AdvTank never leaked a drop of fuel and never has a venting problem.
  10. CHRIS_D

    CHRIS_D Been here awhile

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    Cyborg,

    Thanks for the link to the gas cap. I just purchased one.:deal

    I too am having the same issues with my plastic cap and hope this will fix it. :clap

    One of these days I also need to address the cap/rack clearance issue. Mine is real pain to get on but is still do able. Boy, I really need to learn how to weld. :D
  11. crazybrit

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    I bought the 2:1 and advtank for my 950 last summer. I started on the 2:1, ran into some issues about how the previous owner had mounted the FMFs. Other things came along and the install got put off till now.

    I've seen it suggested here that you may need to bend the mounting tabs on the 2:1. I put my McGuyver hat on and it actually seems that the mounting tabs on the 2:1 are just not long enough or the bend on the pipe itself isn't correct. Frustrating as I wanted to be done with the exhaust and tank today so I could move onto the valve adjust tomorrow.

    ....

    If I let the header fully line up with the silencer the mounting bracket is a fair ways off:

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    I dug out the OEM boat anchors/mounts, same:
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    If I tighten up the mounting bracket, the fit to the cannister isn't that good.

    Is this good enough? There is an air gap at the top, bottom is in as far as it will go.

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  12. crazybrit

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    I guess it is good enough, don't see or smell an exhaust leak. Got some water dripping from the joint when the bike was first started (not been started in a while). Should I put a little hi-temp exhaust sealer on the join?

    Bike sounds very throaty with the single Ti Q2 :D
  13. neduro

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    I think you'll find that if you rotate the rear of the pipe out and down (so, looking forward from behind the bike, the pipe would rotate clockwise) the angle issue you're looking at will disappear. This will require bending the little tabs a bit. I believe those tabs pull in when they are welded, but who knows for sure?

    Sealant is never a bad idea IMO.

    :thumb
  14. crazybrit

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    Hmmn, I looked at the pipe a lot and wasn't really seeing how bending the tabs would make the 2:1 go downwards, outwards yes. Maybe I'm wrong?? Has any other buyer solved a fitment issue like mine via bending?

    So I would bend the tabs out towards the left side of the bike. What is the best way to do this? Off bike? I tried to pull on the pipe (moving it to the right) with it mounted but it wasn't budging. Didn't want to use a pry-bar/leverage against the pipe itself.
  15. crazybrit

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    Got the tank installed. Question. Have these left over parts :thumb

    There is a similar bracket just rounded end which was included for the front tank mount plus spacer. Different size to this spacer.
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    Also, and I'm sure this is going to get me into trouble :D The instructions are not so great. They get the job done but they could be a lot better. There are some gems in there. "3) cut stock crossover line", okay makes sense. "2) Cut short piece of stock fuel line (approx 3-3.5")". I spent a while musing on why I'd want to cut 3" off the fuel line on the bike and where I should cut it from before I assumed it meant "cut 3 inches from supplied fuel line". Also, it would be a lot clearer if the terms used for the supplied parts were a) consistent b) matched the terms used in the "Contents". The way the info is presented, order of diagrams vs text etc and other stuff meant (at least for me) that I had to re-read it all way more times than I should have.

    Also, some better pics of the fuel line routing would be useful as not getting this correct could be bad. I'm not sure on the best routing around the chain roller/knock-down bar area, where to zip tie etc. Anyone have a pic they can post? Before and after this I mostly figured out from the pics.

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  16. neduro

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    That's an important one!

    The clipped end piece goes inside the crossover pipe hanger- the tank should be clamped securely between two brackets, not just the one on the outside.

    The spacer may be spare. Many folks put the 2 into 1 on long before they put on the tank, and lose the stock insert for the crossover hanger. If it's an 8mm ID, we include it in case you have lost the original part that went into the rubber on your forward mount.

    Smugmug won't respond this second for me, so I'm going to try attaching an image here...

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  17. crazybrit

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    I would have to say that this wasn't obvious, but thanks.

    It's 6mm. There is one 8mm in the kit, I assumed that went through the front hole in the tank.

    Any suggestions on the hose routing? Not sure on the area around the chain roller.

    Also, assume blue loctite is not a good idea on the upper/rear mounting bolt? Worried it'll be hard to remove as the insert has no notch on the rear to hold so it'll just spin.
  18. briv

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    @ Crazybrit I see you have in line fuel filter there. Does that help with keeping the inside tank filter clean ?
    Thanks

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  19. FORE!

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    Guys,

    We sold out of our last run of tanks. We currently have the next run in production and they should be ready around July 1.

    HOWEVER, my manufacturer told me that he has 8 tanks from the previous run that he can get to me within 3 weeks.

    SOOOOO, I will open a PRE-ORDER on advtank.com for those 8 tanks. There will be a $50 deposit and an additional $25 discount on each pre-ordered tank. I guarantee the tank will ship to you by May 15 or I will throw in free shipping OR refund your deposit. The PRE-ORDER period will end 4/30 or when I've taken pre-orders for all 8 tanks.

    Additionally, we have 2 into 1 exhaust systems and Leo Vince mufflers in stock and ready to ship right now.

    If you have any questions, please PM me.

    Thanks,

    Scott
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  20. crazybrit

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    How did this work out for you dad2bike? I posted on the above thread as I was curious if there wasn't a different approach.

    I don't really like the idea of blocking the turn signals but it's not totally clear from the pics how badly blocked they are.

    If anyone's done it a different way perhaps you could comment on the above thread. Thanks very much!