KTM Replacement Key - BEING RIPPED OFF

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by GazzaFish, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. Jaimoto

    Jaimoto Spaniard in Chile

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    My buddy Martynho did that, it worked but it's not straight forward
    http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21830832&postcount=14
    >2009 ECUs will always look for the immobilizer, even if you load a 2006-08 map
    So you need to install a 2006-08 ECU on your 2009-12 bike

    After Martynho installed a 2007 ECU we used Tuneecu to copy and paste the 2012 R map figures on a 2007 base map, downloaded it and the bike is running like a champ.


    Sounds good, it may be worth a shot if you have a broken key
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  2. phycospecialties

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    Just an idea! Try having a key made without the chip and see if it works.

    I say this because my bike started flashing a imobilizer fault. 13 I think imobilizer control fault.

    I unplugged the ICU and fault went away.

    Funny thing is the bike still runs and starts with or with out it plugged in.

    Bike was still under warranty so the dealer ordered a new key set with an new antenna/control unit/ icu

    We first replaced the ICU and coded my original keys, bike starts fault codes present still.

    We then replaced switch with antenna and controller, bike starts fault codes present still. 21 and 32 I think can bus failed and something else

    But if we unplug the controller bike starts, no codes flash.

    I'm seriously considering just taking it out altogether the bike starts every time with out the control unit

    You can also test this on your bike by simply unplugging the ICU and trying your remaining key.
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  3. Yascher

    Yascher Been here awhile

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    Can you please share this info on the wiring diagram?
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  4. phycospecialties

    phycospecialties Adventurer

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    If you look the parts fisch. It's located with the key set. A small black box with 5 or six wires going to a white plug. It's located under the glove box on the bike. I do not have the wiring diagram. Trying to get one from another member here but I haven't been able to get it downloaded.
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  5. up2nogood

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    Did you try ktmpartsonline? They're Aussie and pricing is ok.
    I'm screwed, prior owner lost orange key...
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  6. econwatch

    econwatch Been here awhile

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    Finally received replacement black key three months after starting the order process. Summary: Hanover Powersports (great service desk) ordered from KTM Austria, had to provide registration and licence, fee ~$100 USD (incl shipping). Key arrived pre-cut and non coded. Coded w manual and orange key, now all sorted w backup black key. Ready to ride.
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  7. AlxT

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    I don't get it. How is it that a '06 gs key goes for 35 euro and the 990's is 100. It's not a matter of brands for me but a matter of two similar products pricing... It's two keys, that come precut, have a immobilizer receiver (whatever it is) and there is no reason to justify such a big difference price wise. I did pay for the spare key in the end but that's a total fail on KTM's side.

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
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  8. Suddenstop

    Suddenstop Been here awhile

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    GazzaFish I applaud your approach. I like the idea of immobilizers and theft deterrents, but like you feel they should charge reasonable prices. The $80 in the US is at the upper range of that, but $200 for a key is outrageous when we all know the actual parts cost is like $5.
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  9. stephanektm

    stephanektm Been here awhile

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    As i am reading this thread my question is : why did you not get both black keys? And also the orange key?? I can't understand why someone who knows KTM would sell the bike without the keys?? Why???? WHY??????? Oops sorry i got caried away
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  10. Arte

    Arte Pata de Perro

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    the guy who sold me his bike (here on ADV fleamarket) listed among all the goodies in the sales pitch, 2 black keys, 1 orange key, ... etc.

    I got only 1 black and 1 orange.

    I payed up front trusting him, and now I'm screwed, he does not respond to my inquiry to send me the missing key, and other stuff he did not shipped. damn....!
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  11. LTKernel

    LTKernel jack of all trades...

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    After three months of the dealer going back and forth between me and the PO, they agreed to order the keys, immobilizer, and suitcase I never got. I did get one black key. Sent my license and registration in to KTM Austria on January 8th. It's still on backorder with no ship date. I guess I'm not being ripped off since they're making good on the contract. Just frustrating, and I hope I don't lose that one key before then.
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  12. FlyingDutchman

    FlyingDutchman Dirt Biker

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    Another reason I'm glad I bought a 950
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