KTM Super Duke 1290 GT

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by ncj01, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. oldfuddy

    oldfuddy Long timer

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    Yeah, the multi was a great bike, it's just the short time I had on it it did not blow my socks off. Loved how it cornered. I wanted it to blow me away because I love the looks of the PP. guess I just like the explosiveness off idle the KTM has. If the price point on the 1260 Pikes wasn't about $10k more than the new '17 GT I'd definitely be interested, but as nice as it is, I can't justify that much extra cash on a bike that didn't show me $10k more in performance.


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  2. nostatic

    nostatic i drank what?!? - Socrates

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    No argument on price. The new PP is too rich for my blood at north of $25K (we have 10.5% tax so add that on top). My 1200 DVT S was easier to swallow being below $20K. I think the '17 GTs are deals at the current pricing as long as you fit on the bike and the suspension works for you.

    I still love the new PP and if money was no object I'd swap my '17 for one. But I just can't justify the probably $15K difference between what I'd get for trade value and the PP. Hell, I could guy a GT outright for close to the difference :D

    One thing I will say in favor of the Multi is the suspension parameters can be tweaked between the four modes, and I feel a definite difference between touring and sport, and switch between them regularly depending on the riding context.
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  3. oldfuddy

    oldfuddy Long timer

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    Yup, the PP suspension can be infinitely dialed in. That was a huge draw to the bike for me.


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  4. clogan

    clogan Been here awhile

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    Well, I returned to the dealership this morning for more "reflashing". After they finished, My speedo and odo are now working, but my fuel range now reads "---". Crap!

    Before they "fixed" it, the display was in km instead of the indicated miles, but at least there was a number. I could multiply by 0.6 easily enough. But now I have only ---.

    Also, they scrambled my favorite settings again, and slso the one for next scheduled service. Plus, this:

    After handing me the key and telling me I'm ready to go, I thank them one more time. (This was before I noticed the missing fuel range). I get all geared up, start to mount the bike, and then I notice: NO REAR SEAT!!! They deliver the "fixed" (not) bike back to me, with the rear seat missing.

    Why, oh why, did I buy a new bike???

    Buying used, you don't have to put up with this crap.

    Maybe I expect too much. When I take the bike in for recall work, I expect the dealer to not break or tear up something else, and I expect to get the bike back with all the parts it came with. Is that too much to ask???????

    Apparently.


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  5. brianpc

    brianpc Long timer

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    Oof. Where do you live? Do you have the option of finding another dealer? Most of the KTM techs I've dealt with are pretty good about those kinds of details.
  6. t-bills

    t-bills brushed aluminum

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    Clogan,

    I'm starting to think we are going to the same places. I finally got my front brake recall performed. I couldn't get the local dealership to actually order the parts. They kept telling me the parts were ordered, but KTM NA said otherwise. I ended up having to take it to dealership out of town. That shop was a little fussy, but at least did the work.
  7. jeffmackvision

    jeffmackvision Boob man

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    I can highly recommend rgr motorsports in cumming, ga. Stay away from all mountain motorsports that are around the Atlanta area.
  8. clogan

    clogan Been here awhile

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    While my SDGT was at the dealership for the brake recall work, I happened to get a glimpse into the service area. I was surprised to see my bike's rear wheel being lowered to the floor with a scissors type jack under the catalytic converter. I meant to ask the tech about it, but forgot when I got the chance. Anyhow, does anyone know if it is generally acceptable practice to elevate the bike's rear wheel by jacking under the cat? Sure would make chain maintenance easier!

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  9. RDKLL

    RDKLL Adventurer

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    I would say NO! Might be smarter folks than me but...

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  10. t-bills

    t-bills brushed aluminum

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    I second that. No way is the cat meant to be used for supporting the bike. A rear wheel stand would be much more appropriate.
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  11. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    I would be fucking heated if I saw my bike in a shop being lifted by the exhuast.
  12. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    well at least if you do any work in the future that requires taking off the exhaust, and you end up inventing new curse words trying to get it back on you will know why... :photog
  13. Bootlegfab

    Bootlegfab n00b

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    I'm waiting for my '17 to be delivered and naturally purchasing parts already lol...Can anyone confirm if either the Evotech or R&G tail tidy will allow use of the hard bags with US spec OEM turn signals? I think I may be leaning towards the X blaster integrated LED tail just for simplicity tho I hate to give up the OEM smoked rear tail. Also has anyone local dealt with K&B Motorsports in Petaluma, CA? Thank you.
  14. Rodzja

    Rodzja Adventurer

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    Hi.
    Picked Up my GT at dealer to day and rode it home. Perfect day and the bike where perfect to.
    The clunk was gone. The bike was much better to drive. Abolute superb.
    Both front shocks replaced with 17 and Up specs.
    And all the rest of the problem are ok now.
    Front shocks..warranty
    Front break discs..warranty
    Front break sylinder..recall
    New different sidestand..warranty
    New exhaust valve and software..recall
    Adjusted rear preload -2.. For free
    First year service.. For free
    Crossing my fingers for a problem free riding season.
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  15. GKGorman

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    Beating a dead horse... Suspension.
    I'm not complaining, just stating what I think I've figured out.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    I did a 761.8 mile ride from San Diego to San Jose. Taking the most direct route possible through Borrego Springs, Anza, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Kernville, Trail of 100 Giants, Exeter and then the fastest way possible to home, I discovered some things. In one ride I went from a high temp of 90f to a low of 49f and rain. I had smooth fast roads, Montezuma Valley, slow smooth, slow bumpy, and roads that would have been better had they been dirt roads.

    I now have, in the 20 days since I got her 3993 miles on this bike.

    1. Pirelli Angel GT front likes, needs, air. I dropped the front to 32 and the bike almost refused to turn. When it heated up to 36 it was great. And, if you've aired down, unless you're riding curves, it will cool down 1-2psi and won't turn. Don't go down to 32 with the Angel GT

    2. This bike can make you feel like you don't know how to ride. It requires you to be loose in the bars. Any input after it's leaned over will upset the bike when it hits bumps. Other than suspension there's two other factors at play here. The first is the wide bars which magnify the effect on your body and the subsequent input back into the bike. The second is the ride by wire throttle being very sensitive. You hit a bump, your brand moves just a little, the massive torque moves the bike, your hand moves a little more and viola a pogoing bike. Get the bike leaned and relax.

    3. The bike hates pulling on the bars for counter-steering. Push on the inside bar. And make sure you're pushing forward and not at all slightly down. It responds very nicely to deliberate forward pushes. I still tend to pull a little on the outside bar for right turns.

    4. This bike does not like to be cornered with you sitting up. It really likes your head near the mirrors. Not hanging off mind you, just head down and near the mirror. I try not to hang off on the street. I don't like looking like I'm going as fast as I am.

    5. For riding the curves even really bumpy roads, I ran with a load setting of two plus luggage in sport mode. The only issue I had with this setting was the high speed compression dampening was harsh.

    6. At a 50f air temp, the suspension just doesn't work. At 70f and above I might actually call it decent.

    I really started getting along with the bike and the suspension during this ride. Then, in the cold night I exited the freeway on a clover leaf exit and thought I had a flat tire. It was 51f and the front was showing 33psi but the bike almost refused to turn.

    In bumpy turns with good body position, throttle control, and relaxed arms the bike will hold a line.

    The "ergo", (it's flat like the stock how's it ergonomic?) heated seat is firm but I don't sit as long at work as I do at play . The room to move around is great.



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  16. EvilSteve

    EvilSteve Been here awhile

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    Yep. I have the evotech fender eliminator, stock signals, bags and the sw-motech top box setup. It's fine. I'm not sure why people say it doesn't work.

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  17. EvilSteve

    EvilSteve Been here awhile

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    My bike feels like it was put together by people intending it to be ridden now with the softer shock spring. So much more confidence in the bike. Really looking forward to the fork springs arriving. Also agree on the pressure issue, I don't like the way the bike feels with lower pressures Angel GTs or Pilot Road 4s. About to order some PR5s.
  18. Bootlegfab

    Bootlegfab n00b

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    Alright...thank you. I've had the R&G on order but it's on backorder everywhere, and the more I look at it...I don't like the mounting setup...It looks cheesy. Sounds like it's either the Evotech with stock signals or the R&G with an X-blaster...1st world problems I guess.
  19. Troy_V

    Troy_V Ace

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    How does one go about getting different springs? I'm about 245lbs without gear (6'-6"), and I think I could use the front a little stiffer,
  20. Newbusa

    Newbusa Long timer

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    The Evotech will not work with the North America signal lights and the luggage .You need the European Led lights.