YEah they got better but still, they lack in that part on the 450s. But even a Showa is prone to a revalve anyway. (for me atleast) Compared to the Triumph i feel they actually are badass. If u ever get the chance to check on a stock 800xc keep an eye on those points. They could have done a bit better there. (not saying KTM couldnt have done any better either) Oh, but i would not fear u would think any different then that.