L. A. ADVenture Rides

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by NSFW, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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    we had whoops too..:eek1
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    glad to see roundstock made today's ride; he was with us in baja last month.
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    nmbmn with his usd front suspension...:wink:
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    last hill climb
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    descending is more challenging than going up
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    no, we're not in mexico..:evil
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    back again on the boringly nice dirt road
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    the 950's proving ground
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    made it to kramer junction
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    4 more riders joined us
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    duane, there's something on your crf450x makes me...:tb
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  2. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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    after 100 yards of pavement, we're back again on dirt on our way to randsburg
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    the ride was good and fast..then in many unexpected places we ran into deep sand..:cry, but nobody ate it.

    the first sign of trouble was when my bike started to bog down, then it went away. we're about 15 miles after we left kramer junction, and all of the sudden the bike died. first thought, i was out of gas, which of course it wasn't the case. afraid of draining the battery, we took turn kickstarting the 640a
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    then we took off the seat, gas tank, and most plastics so we can easily trouble shoot and work on the bike. sito, steve and i spent a good hour without any good result. so i told rob, go ahead and take the rest of the guys to randsburg while jim tows me back to kramer, while sito and johngil provide some assist if needed (it proved to be valuable help when jim and i got stuck in the sand)


    i'm thankful to whoever brought the tow strap, let me know who so i can return it.
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    towing was tough and lots of close call. then we got swallowed by the deep sand....:lol3
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    we made it to kramer without anymore incident...i owe it to jim, and of course to many as well.

    while jim and sito went back to phelan, john and i decided to hang out in kramer.

    hell yeah! :lol3 the price of burger at astro's convinced us it's the best place to park my dead bike
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    the gyro was good...you guys need to check out this joint.
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    lots of dirt riders like this place
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    the hogs were there too, and thought i saw dunerat was with them
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    after about 2 hours of waiting, spafxer finally showed up :clap
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  3. punkenduro

    punkenduro now in a cage...

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    the bikes narcoleptic, eather that or it need a nap after 150 miles(sidestands in the sand suck). whats sad it the second time it happened it took a swing at roundstock's ktm on the way down (sry again dude). maybe the bike doesnt like ktms to bad your bike broke down joel, cus i spun the bike out in a soft corner and droped it for real, but i got the bike up so fast i dont think anyone could get a picture. next time dude. great ride report by the way.
  4. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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    as previously mentioned, we had 5 guys hurt in the less than 2 months.

    our rides started small with loose rules and that was ok; but now that that the group is getting bigger every ride...i propose that we all adhere to some rules. let us hear from everyone your suggestions.

    i'll start it.

    1. plan your ride, ride your plan (and have an alternate plan)
    3. ride within your own skill level..max out to 75% of your capability.
    4. take it easy at the end of the ride..after 3 pm when more accidents happen.
  5. Nowwhat

    Nowwhat I'll Go Second...

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    hey J....

    Don't know how practical this is....But...one a ride like yesterday's desert run...we need to break into smaller groups.....A,B,C....by ability...

    Each Group rides independently....we meet in the morning...at lunch and at the end of the day.....everyone can ride their pace...

    To make this work....each group needs a trail leader that know the route...this can be taken care of in advance....
  6. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    That's a good story, have another one?
    Agree with all of this.

    However, NUMBER 1 RULE: Everyone must carry beer for the ride leader. The only person who followed this rule yesterday was JohnGil:freaky :lol3 ,
  7. boyfester

    boyfester Urban Explorer

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    The way I ride through whoops, I don't think anyone would want me to carry beer. Next time, I can't wait to join you guys. Sorry to hear about all the mishaps and injuries.

    As for rules that I live by...

    1. Don't ride over your limit.
    2. Use common sense.
    3. Always wait for the next guy at a fork in the road. As you take off, make sure he waits for the next guy too.
    4. Don't follow too close to the guy in front of you. (This leads to #5)
    5. If you eat shit or almost eat shit in a ditch, hole, etc. and the guy behind you is not on your ass, be sure to wait and flag the guy so he doesn't do the same thing you just did. When racing, unfortunately I can't tell you how many times I've been run over.
    6. Don't blast over a hill without knowing what is on the other side (other rider, ditch, canal, etc.).

    These were taught to me by my old man when I was 7 years old and I've never forgotten them (except for #2 - sometimes I like to urban explore in out of bounds areas)
  8. bouncing billy

    bouncing billy Been here awhile

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    think about what happened ,traction, no dust ,some pent up aggression,easy to get sucked into to fast to close,just a rare case of haulingassaytous lets not start dictating our rides or how we ride cuz a couple of accidents.As all the racers in the group dr ,tt ,yzlvr,johngill they will say the same,perfect conditions make us all ride faster and harder just know that for the next time.harder and faster =sprained or busted bones if you go down:freaky
  9. fmfpunk

    fmfpunk Hooligan in training

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    I agree w/ Billy. We've been doing pretty well so far. Some carnage is inevitable.

  10. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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    i certainly agree that group of different levels riding together, someone will be bound to get hurt.

    agree, the group should be split into skill levels ONLY when we have an unusually large turnout, just like yesterday and some of the previous rides we had.

    let's not forget though, our group was founded based on camaraderie and with relaxed attitude. i prefer to continue to promote such atmosphere. most importantly, we don't want to exclude nOObs or less experienced riders from our future rides or similar other actions with selfish motive. i hate to see our rides get ran by motocross junkies (sort of).

    at the same time, i would like to see the better riders to have a good time too and work on their skills.

    there should be a solution to this. i like sito and trailtrick's idea. if a ride is going to be a tough one...let it be then and announce it in advance. if you're in doubt if you could fit in, pm the ride leader and get his response. meanwhile, ride leader should know all the riders enough to exclude the ones who would be challenged.

    if you're new to the group come to the regular local rides. there you get to know the other members of the community; then you get to know where you are in the food chain...:D

    finally, if we decide to ride as a group of different skill levels...everyone should adjust and be flexible. don't do anything that could jeopardized the safety of the other riders. advanced riders should find this an opportunity to help the less skilled riders, while the lesser riders shall see this as one of those few moments to learn and be greatful.

    joel
  11. traveltoad

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    People of all skills levels can get hurt on even the easiest of rides. I think Nowwhat's point of staying together and helping people home is very important.
  12. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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    :clap
    one good example, i was following a group of riders and ran over barbed wires in the middle of the trail. once i made it to the lead group, i asked them if they saw the barbed wire, and yes was their response. nobody stopped and warned the rider behind them. i am just as guilty for not being there for the guy behind me....that evening, it made me sick for being selfish and stupid.

    not addressed to anyone in particular: better dirt condition should never make us ride harder and faster, but to appreciate the ride more. we're no longer young and into racing. those days are over, it's time to enjoy riding as matured and adult people. we all make mistakes, but others continue to break rules and riding into restricted areas. if you don't want any rules or guidelines then an organized ride is not for you.
  13. johngil

    johngil Reseda, CA

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    I agree. That's why I won't/don't ride on until I see a bike in motion. I've been through too many bad experiences to know that there is some safety w/ company.
    Every time I ass-u-me, I am sorry.
    That happened as recently as yesterday...
  14. trailtrick

    trailtrick goat trail rider

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    Billy i agree with you ,and i want to add few things :n1 noobs have to no wath type o ride is and wath type o riders go in the ride ,i personal don't care because i can keep up most o the times ,but went ride with noobs i try the make it easy with some technical stuff trow in so they get better ,desert is a very unfamiliar terrain for manny here ,death valley is not the common desert the we ride with open mine shafts,ditchs,rain ruts,rocks ,sandwashes with rocks .N2 most o the noobs bikes are not set up for desert o sand for that matter =crashes N3 most noobs want to ride but i recomend theme the ask ?? to the more experience riders abouth bike set up,ridding position,and anny other ??they have .And the most important get a small bike like a crf 230o xr 250 o 200 and ride it to you get in control 100% o the time and theme switch to a bigger more powerfull bike,even with that crashes sappen .Went i got my 950 i rode it like a mad man and after few months i decide the get ready o her before she get ready o me:eek1 ,and got a 690,much better bike for wath i do and how i ride .
  15. terranova

    terranova slow and steady

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    You said it Joel! I've been following the aforementioned advice after tweaking my ankle (i got off easy compared to others, i know). But i think that if you want this kind of approach to riding to become part of the ADV mindset, then your suggestions should get the same "air-time" as the beer stops. And that means keeping these thoughts on the threads for the rides, rather than isolated on a separate thread. I have nothing against guys riding fast and having a cool barely pop, as long as they are within their comfort zone and skill level. But at the same time you really should keep the "ride safe" and "take it easy and enjoy the scenery" mantras along with all of the beer drinking and trail shredding bravado that goes with the territory . . .
    --Dan
  16. fmfpunk

    fmfpunk Hooligan in training

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    Crap! I guess i can't ride w/ y'all anymore.... Ha!
  17. CCer

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    my 2 cents: i am completely responsible for how i ride and the results. there are many good suggestions here but the way i see it, there needs a balance between doing things that bring down the risks and the joy of getting on a bike and riding fast.

    i'll listen to and often take the advice of those who offer it, but i reserve the right to occasionally ride on the edge. i know that getting hurt can ruin the day of those who ride with me, so i try to keep risks to a minimum.

    my skills are rusty and as i've learned in trying to pick up other sports that i once excelled at, i can't do everything i once did, nowhere close. i definately pushed it more than i should have yesterday. I plan to adjust my riding accordingly but still scare myself on occasion.
  18. xymotic

    xymotic Long timer

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    This whole ordeal has really got me thinking.

    I sure hope you guys heal up soon. CCer I don't feel so bad for "almost" scratching your bike anymore! Dayum!

    Were ether of the shoulder injury guys wearing pressure suits?

    When I went out with you guys I had a couple of coming to terms with jesus moments. I felt good having survived, but you're right that we need to appreciate the seriousness a little bit.
  19. cribaby

    cribaby Dirt/Street? No Wait Dirt

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    (Posted by Joel) i'm thankful to whoever brought the tow strap, let me know who so i can return it.

    Joel
    Great rr. That tow strap would be mine, put it in your bag and use it until we hook up on another ride or at Dezert skills to be Tested camp out. I hope your bikes fix turns out to be something simple and cheap.

    Charlie
  20. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    That's a good story, have another one?
    Is this what it has come down to?


    I believe that's what was done. I don't think I misled anyone. It appears to me that some people just did not get the memos (see below). It worries me when some people post things like "...don't want to read through all of this, so whats the plan..." or "...blah, blah, blah, where are we meeting..." I think if people are not capable of reading the ride plan, maybe they should not go. This would be much better than deciding to blame the ride leader or faster riders later for their own actions.

    I suggested this twice yesterday




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