L.A.-Barstow to Vegas 2017 Nov. 24-Nov. 25, 2017 dual sport ride

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by RAZR, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    LAB2V 2017

    Thanksgiving weekend Friday November 24

    Saturday November 25

    OFFICIAL THREAD.

    Palmdale Supercycles - Barstow Ramada Inn - Orleans Hotel Las Vegas

    WE ARE LIVE!!! REGISTER NOW!!!
    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/la-barstow-vegas-2017-registration-35802668746?ref=ebtnebregn


    AMA D37 THREAD HERE

    ONLINE REGISTRATION
    please do not quote this first post. let's keep this thread uncluttered.
    also there will be updates and changes on this post over the next few months.
    :deal

    YOU DO NEED AMA MEMBERSHIP FOR THIS RIDE!
    AS A MOTORCYCLIST, YOU SHOULD SUPPORT ALL THE EFFORTS THE AMA DOES FOR MOTORCYCLIST RIGHTS AND KEEPING OUR LAND OPEN AND OUR RIGHTS TO RIDE.
    americanmotorcyclist.com/membership/join
    $49 membership


    PLEASE READ ALL RULES.

    PLATED STREET LEGAL BIKE.

    SPARK ARRESTOR AND QUIET EXHAUST A MUST ( 96db ).

    FUEL RANGE IS 90-100 MILES.

    HAVE A ROLLCHART HOLDER. EVEN IF YOU HAVE GPS, YOU NEED A ROLLCHART

    the LAB2V is the days after Thanksgiving, on Friday November 24 and Saturday November 25


    ENTRY IS $210 BOTH DAYS

    or $105 for Day 1 ONLY

    or $150 for Day 2 ONLY


    SIGN UP TO THE DISTRICT 37 DUAL SPORT MESSAGE BOARD FORUM
    http://www.district37ama.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?5-Dual-Sport


    SECURE MOTORCYCLE PARKING IN BOTH BARSTOW AND LAS VEGAS

    Barstow is secure at the Ramada Inn with the Boy Scouts of Barstow! :clap
    you can park there even if you're not staying at the Ramada.
    there will be local Boy Scouts (and their parents) that will watch all night long for a small donation of 10 bucks.

    Las Vegas has a underground parking area where you will park. hotel security 24/7.

    Your Gear will be transported from Palmdale-> Barstow and Barstow-> Las Vegas for FREE with trailer. just pick up your bag after each days ride. small to medium sized bags preferably moto gear bags or duffel bags.

    PLEASE GO OVER TO D37 SITE AND READ ALL THE RULES, AND POINTERS ON WHAT TO BRING ie; clothing/gear/tools/food/tires/etc etc.


    http://www.district37ama.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?5-Dual-Sport


    PALMDALE

    Embassy Suites
    code: AMA
    discount rate $89
    http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en...-suites-by-hilton-palmdale-PMDCCES/index.html
    1-661-266-3756


    BARSTOW

    RAMADA INN ONLY SINGLE KING BEDS AVAILABLE as of June 30, 2017
    http://www.ramada.com/hotels/california/barstow/ramada-barstow/rooms-rates
    760-256-5673

    Quality Inn. TONS OF ROOMS AVAILABLE
    code: AMA

    https://www.choicehotels.com/california/barstow/quality-inn-hotels/ca183
    760-256-6891

    CALIFORNIA INN
    https://www.innbarstow.com
    760-256-0661

    MOTEL 6

    https://www.motel6.com/#/home
    760-256-1752
    or check Yelp for other options, but the Ramada and Holiday are the main hotels we use.
    http://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=hotels&find_loc=Barstow,+CA


    LAS VEGAS

    Orleans
    code: A7AMC11
    discount rate $84 plus $15 resort fee plus tax
    Sunday rate $40 plus $15 resort fee plus tax
    cutoff date - Oct.
    http://www.orleanscasino.com/whats-...leans&ef_id=VP5FqwAAAbshsVy8:20150702070656:s
    702-365-7111
    or
    800-ORLEANS


    Do I have to be an AMA Member?

    YES

    AMA membership is required.
    Beta National Dual Sport Bike Series bike drawings - Founded in 1924, the AMA has an unparalleled history of pursuing, protecting and promoting the interests of the world's largest and most dedicated group of motorcycle enthusiasts.
    JOIN HERE


    Will my bike need to pass an inspection?

    YES

    - Street licenced, legal motorcycles only!
    - U.S. Forest Service approved spark arrestor.
    - Be able to pass an exhaust sound decibal test. 96dB Max.
    - You must have a roll chart holder installed.
    - Roll chart holders will be available for purchase at the event.

    How many miles is it?

    - It will be about 225-250 miles on Friday and 225-250 on Saturday
    - Depending on your chosen route.

    - choose from: Easy as well as Hard Way off shoots.

    What kind of GPS do I need?

    Garmin.
    Montana is the best!
    62 or 78 are also great!
    older models that are great if you can find one on ebay are .... 60 or 76, 276, 376, 476.
    hiking GPS don't work very well for Dual Sport riding.

    - You won't "need" a GPS at all!
    - But if you want to use one, the tracks will be available for most any Garmin units.

    - Be sure to bring your connection cable too!

    Do I really need a roll chart holder if I have GPS?

    YES
    - Roll Chart navigation is the tried and true navigation method
    - plus.. the batteries will never run out!

    What will the weather be like?

    It has been COLD, HOT, WINDY, RAINY, SUNNY & SNOWY!
    - Prepare for these conditions and you should be fine.
    - NOTE ~ twilight 6:06AM, Sunrise 6:34AM - Sunset 4:37PM, twilight 5:05PM

    What if I don't have a riding partner?

    Please look on District 37 message board to find a riding partner before the ride
    - Because riding alone is not advised, we encourage you to find a partner or group on our board.

    - No one rides alone! The District 37 folks make sure of that!

    Are there group rates available on hotels?

    Yes group rates are available for the LA-Barstow-Vegas ride

    - Palmdale:

    Embassy Suites
    code: AMA
    discount rate $89
    1-661-266-3756
    mention code: AMA

    - Barstow:

    Ramada (Ride HQ), 760-256-5673, mention code: AMA

    or Quality Inn, 760-256-6891, mention code: AMA

    (the Quality Inn is directly across the street from the Ramada)


    - Las Vegas:

    The Orleans, 800-675-3267, mention code: A7AMC11
    Orleans cut off date to book with the group rates is October
    DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. IT WILL SELL OUT.

    got questions?
    Please visit the D37 Message Board for LOTS more info - HERE

    - The message board can be helpful to find transportation at various points needed before and after the ride.



    PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST. LET'S NOT CLUTTER THE THREAD.

    IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, POST UP.




    -->just an FYI to everyone...

    here's a reminder from LAB2V sweep.

    1: Sweep is there to help all riders. But sweep is not your personal pit crew. There are a lot of others riders who my need help.

    2: Carry tools for your bike sweep might not have proper tools for your make of bike.

    3: If hurt stay on course sweep will be there to help you. Don’t try to find help we will find you. Carry some type of medical info card. Most sweep riders are Medical First Responders.
    Sweep riders have radios and cell phones and can get the sweep truck, paramedics or in the worst case life flight to your location.

    4: If sweep ask you to ride the pavement to your finial destination don’t argue with them do as your asked this is for your safety. It gets real dark and cold real fast.

    5: Learn how to change your tubes before the ride. If you don’t want to carry 2 tubes just carry a 21” front it can be used in the rear tire to get you back. Adventure bike will be different.

    6: Don’t ride over you abilities. A hard way may sound like fun but if you have never done one you might not have the skills to complete it.

    7: Ride in groups of 3 if possibly. If one rider goes down one rider stays and the other rider heads to the next check point and tells the check worker or LAB2V staff location, rider number and problem.
    If there is only 2 in your group stay there. Tell someone riding by to let the check point or LAB2V staff that there is a downed rider giving the location. rider number and problem.

    8: Don’t waste a lot of time sight seeing taking breaks or lunch (about a 1/2 hour works for lunch) we would like to get everyone in before dark and keeping all the riders safe.

    9: WATER, WATER and WATER. Drink as much water as you can starting Monday to the day of the ride. If your not peeing clear you are not getting enough water.


    ----also, LAB2V is an open route. not on a closed course. there is 2 way traffic on all routes that you will be riding so ride with caution.
    this is Thanksgiving weekend and there are a lot of OHVers out in the desert this weekend and 4X4 folks, so keep your eyes peeled.
    there is also unmarked paved road crossings as well as unmarked dirt road crossing so please check before you cross.
    and this is the desert so there will be washouts that could maybe possibly break a BMW swingarm.:lol3


    this is your friendly reminder to ride safe.:muutt

    and have a fucking blast because this is the best dual sport ride in the world! :ricky
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  2. HBSURFDAD

    HBSURFDAD Oops, Sorry

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    Thank you RAZR, I got registered last night and I am truly looking forward to my first LAB2V!
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  3. Barakaiki

    Barakaiki Been here awhile

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    Looking forward to it. Thanks for the big bike friendly alt routes when they made sense to post. Helped keep it fun!


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  4. Ol Man

    Ol Man Been here awhile

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    Son and I signed up and have had our motel reservations for some time.
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  5. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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  6. breakdirt916

    breakdirt916 CA PLATED 94 YZ250 2-STROKE

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    nothing available at Ramada for Friday...gonna keep checking...
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  7. DirtDog43

    DirtDog43 Adventurer

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    Signed up last night :clap and staying at the Ramada.
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  8. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    the Ramada has single king beds available but only a few as of last night at 9PM when I called.

    every year I tell people to book their room at the Ramada in Barstow when they get home from the ride. it fills up fast. and the railroad takes up a lot of the rooms for their workers.

    Quality Inn across the street has a ton of rooms available. and it's a better hotel in my opinion.

    if you plan on staying Thanksgiving night in Palmdale ( I recommend doing that ), we are staying at the Palmdale Embassy Suites.
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  9. dino702

    dino702 OFF2BFE

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    What's the 411 on route selections this year? Extra long like last year I hope.
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  10. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    haven't gotten specifics yet, but every year tends to be 400+ miles in the two days. some years it'll top 500+ in the two days.
    once we have word of the final or close to final route, i'll post it up.
    the BLM drags their feet every year on green lighting the routes so sometimes there's last minute changes.
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  11. dunerat

    dunerat WTF?

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    Rooms booked
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  12. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    Happy Independence Day!!!
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  13. breakdirt916

    breakdirt916 CA PLATED 94 YZ250 2-STROKE

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    I really loved having GPS, but is a spot tracker worth it?

    I don't have much use for it outside of LAB2V, but a rental is $55 for 3 days
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  14. dino702

    dino702 OFF2BFE

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    Spot Tracker no, because LAB2V has sweep riders. Basically the same thing right?
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  15. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    DO NOT RELY ON RESCUE 3.
    THEY ARE NOT VOLUNTEERING JUST FOR YOU.
    SOMETIMES THEY DON'T GET TO EVERYONE THAT GETS INJURED OR THAT HAS BIKE PROBLEMS. OR THEY WILL GET TO YOU LATE. MAYBE 3AM. (true story)

    but seriously, do what you need to do to keep YOU safe.
    i am a huge proponent for SPOT or DELORME on all rides and especially LAB2V.
    the amount of time it takes for your riding buddy to go get help compared to a GPS enabled SOS device that can pinpoint your location is big. the DELORME you can text your specific injuries.

    anyway, District 37 and LAB2V don't require you to have a SPOT or DELORME or even a GPS, but you need to be responsible.
    and people need to NOT rely on others for help. Rescue 3 is a volunteer organization and this ride has 500+ riders on it.
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  16. srferjo

    srferjo Rescue 3 #344

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    Just a reminder from LAB2V sweep.

    1: Sweep is there to help all riders. But sweep is not your personal pit crew. There are a lot of others riders who my need help.

    2: Carry tools for your bike sweep might not have proper tools for your make of bike.

    3: If hurt stay on course sweep will be there to help you. Don’t try to find help we will find you. Carry some type of medical info card. Most sweep riders are Medical First Responders.
    Sweep riders have radios and cell phones and can get the sweep truck, paramedics or in the worst case life flight to your location.

    4: If sweep ask you to ride the pavement to your finial destination don’t argue with them do as your asked this is for your safety. It gets real dark and cold real fast.

    5: Learn how to change your tubes before the ride. If you don’t want to carry 2 tubes just carry a 21” front it can be used in the rear tire to get you back. Adventure bike will be different.

    6: Don’t ride over you abilities. A hard way may sound like fun but if you have never done one you might not have the skills to complete it.

    7: Ride in groups of 3 if possibly. If one rider goes down one rider stays and the other rider heads to the next check point and tells the check worker or LAB2V staff location, rider number and problem.
    If there is only 2 in your group stay there. Tell someone riding by to let the check point or LAB2V staff that there is a downed rider giving the location. rider number and problem.

    8: Don’t waste a lot of time sight seeing taking breaks or lunch (about a 1/2 hour works for lunch) we would like to get everyone in before dark and keeping all the riders safe.

    9: WATER, WATER and WATER. Drink as much water as you can starting Monday to the day of the ride. If your not peeing clear you are not getting enough water.
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  17. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    great info @srferjo ! :clap

    i'm going to copy and paste this on the first post.
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  18. srferjo

    srferjo Rescue 3 #344

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    Cool,
    Rescue 3 just wants all the riders to remain safe.
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  19. Bullseye

    Bullseye Mr. Bad Example

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    I'm also a proponent of trackers. If you use SPOT.... When you push the help button, the SPOT call center will contact the local authorities (usually local Sheriff). Aside from your position and name, SPOT will not be able to provide much info. In turn, the local Sheriff will have received a somewhat random call from out-of-state with very limited info and isn't likely to prioritize it.
    So here's what you do... make sure that you set-up your account and identify a responsible contact who will get email or text notifications when you push the button. Make sure that when they see 'Help', they pick-up the phone, call the local authorities themselves and advocate for you. Your contact can look-up your reported coordinates on Google Maps and provide detail (don't assume that all authorities are comfortable with GPS Coordinates), they can explain who you are and what you were doing, they might even be able to venture a guess as to what you might be wearing, etc. It sounds silly, but it will help make it 'Real' for the authorities. This could save you hours of misery. Trust me... this is based on actual SPOT experience.:deal
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  20. srferjo

    srferjo Rescue 3 #344

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    Can a spot be linked to the rescue 3 command post? By the way rescue 3 is a "real" search and rescue Organization supporting district 37 competition, score and M.O.R.E. off road racing.

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