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Discussion in 'Sports' started by Green Stainz, Sep 6, 2005.
Never failed a test!
1) just because others are cheating doesn't mean by doing the same you aren't cheating.
2) LA claims he never dope. = Liar. Actually, he use to say he never doped now he just says he's never tested positive.
Unlike others, related to this investigation or not, who have had the guts to admit they cheated LA never will.
I used to be a staunch LA cheerleader, but on Tuesday, I downloaded the entire USADA report. It's damning - down to the detail as to HOW the guy avoided testing positive.
What I'm getting at is Who gives a Shit. He doped, his opponents doped, my next door neighbor doped. All the high class athletes are or have doped at some point. Not just cycling either. Either you dope, or you get left behind by the dopers. That's sports in this day and age.
Yea, sounds like a great idea to come out and admit to doping. Nobody athlete is going to admit to that while they still have a career or image to maintain. You don't see any of the losers admitting for the same reason. They are all doping liars. But like my previous statement. Who gives a shit??
How does Horner avoid all this? When he broke onto the US scene he was suddenly so good it was as if he was the only domestic rider with a world elite dope program. His name is absent?
I've thought about that also. Maybe he was always clean and when the others stopped doping he finally he was able show his stuff? Wishful thinking I guess. I always liked his style of racing.
I rode with Chris back in February. He came up behind me, sat with another guy for a while, came around and i sat in behind them. I did not realize who it was at first. The other rider went down a different road, I pulled up next to Chris and we chatted. He really liked my bike (classic steel), talked about riders I knew and raced with that he raced against now, and i noticed we were JRA at 23 mph. He smiled, knowing I could not ride in the wind next to him at that speed. The road tilted up, i could not speak, we were @ 26 mph, i told him to just go. He stood up and motored away.
Izzat Lance in his triathlon days, pre doping?
This is a great listen - Peddlers: Cycling's Dirty Truth
You can either download the MP3 or stream direct from the website.
Well, he's saying he never saw any doping (and again doesn't answer the question about whether he doped) but if you read the link in one of the comments in the below article they seem to identify him as un-named rider #15 who Levi says told him he doped.
Nike drops and LA and he quits chairman post of Livewrong.
Holy shit. It really is going to hell in a handbag.
I just watched this thing, its pretty interesting. If even a portion is true, its pretty damning for a guy who arrogantly and adamantly denies any wrongdoing. "the Bernie Madoff" of professional sports -- priceless
Just watched also. Sad, sad situation all around.
I suspect its going to hit terminal velocity to hell when/if SCA promotions files lawsuit against LA in order to get its millions of dollars back now that it's apparent LA lied under oath during their 2005 trial.
It's been interesting as hell watching all this unfold over the last several years. A little sad its all coming to an end.
I know this is breaking your heart. If you're lucky, Lance will off himself and you can be first to dance on his grave!
Sad day for cycling...