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Discussion in 'Sports' started by Green Stainz, Sep 6, 2005.
He should never have come back from retirement. Things cost messy after that.
Lance Armstrong celebrity guy to burn at Edenbridge
Well shit! What did we expect him to do? I was the most vociferous armstrong detractor starting in 1999. If you knew anything about cycling you knew he was doping/performance enhancing/etc. I was more pissed at his new naive fans of the TDF than I was at him for claiming he was clean and so superior. We've all seen the meatheads that chant USA USA USA wherever they go and especially during those years.
I am shocked at myself now to say that he shouldn't lose his titles unless it is possible to find someone who finished in the top 20 of the TDF that did not cheat. He was the best of the doping era.
Furthermore, his corporate sponsors that are dropping him now should be boycotted by the shopping and investing public. If these corps. staff were that naive about what was going on in cycling during that era and thought that LA was not cheating - they are stupid as children and these corps. are incapable of providing a decent product or at least providing a decent product at an efficient price so don't buy any of their crap.
Agreed, some sponsors are so bold as to even try and sue the UCI for tarnishing the sport of cycling by letting Lance ride. They had to be aware and are just trying to avoid complicity and reap unwarranted rewards.
Hmmmmm. Guess who is talking about confessing?
we will see if his ego lets him.
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I wonder if he'll rat?
Not sure what he has to gain out of all this ? I read somewhere he wants to compete again ? WTF is that all about - really, he's going to confess so he can (eventually) compete again ? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Immunity from prosecution and maybe reclaim is image a little so he gets endorsements again.
Maybe a paycheck from Oprah? From what I understand the guy has the potential to be even more screwed by admitting anything as he'll open himself up to perjury issues relating to his previous court battles. He's already got a few $1M+ legal battles to deal with against former court rulings that now at least seem open to a counter suit. He seemed to want to be able to compete in running and Tri events that are sanctioned by their respective US bodies. Does that mean he starts a 2 year ban etc... I wouldn't think so. I think there are a lot of the general public who haven't followed cycling relatively closely enough or know about the culture that think LA was the victim of some sort of witch hunt and not the massive prick that he apparently is and maybe he trying to get those people on his side. I don't know but I sure as hell am going to watch.
The one question I would want Oprah to ask him would be "you falsely slandered people, their families, their integrity costing them career opportunities and damaging their reputations. How does that make you feel?"
WTF are you talking about? He is the rat.
Oh, and I am sure there will be a bunch of LIivestrong bullshit and how wonderful it is when really it's just a self-promotion, image protecting, cash cow for LA with huge amount of cash in the bank that doesn't spend any money on research etc....
I'd add "and what do you feel you owe them?"
Damn straight Swimmer, the wake of damage that followed this guy is beyond forgiving. I don't know if Oprah knows enough about what went on, or if she runs the kind of show where the really hard questions will be asked. I'll be watching too.
Like Oprah has ever ridden a bike
Her sole job is to sell shit so be interesting to see what she says.
I still can't see an upside for Armstrong for doing this...
I don' think she is a push over and I think she takes a harsh view of people that lie to the public/fans so I am hopeful she won't be cuddling LA. I am not a "fan" of Oprah but you gotta respect her - she's big time. LA was on her show before and yes, she rode a bike. Lie you, still no idea and how this plays out/benefits him.
I did have a lot of respect for Oprah but at the end of the day, her main aim is to sell shit. She's not alone in that goal mind, just the most successful.
I wonder if Trek or Specialized will be buying adspace on her show
Apparently he will admit cheating and is not get paid by Oprah.
Why are people shocked and offended when performance enhancers are discovered? Steroids have been around since the 1950's and were used by bodybuilders and strength athletes then as now. Despite all the media hype about supposed 'roid rage and death there really isn't any danger in using steroids and growth hormone. We can't expect records to keep falling , the human body hasn't evolved that much.