Land Rover Lust!

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Mav, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. Doc.Snyder

    Doc.Snyder Long timer

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    These Defenders have additional Air Lockers in the front and rear axle. That would make 3 lockable diffs. Front, Center and Rear.
    From what I've read in their Thread on www.offraod-forum.de , the Top speed is a bit lower, but you can compensate with bigger tires. But bigger tires put more stress on the drivetrain,... So it depends what you do with it.
    Handling is not much different. Of course it is a bit higher, but at the same time a bit wider.

    The guy in the white 130 uses it as a Press vehicle for rallies like Berlin Breslau or the trans Siberia challenge.
  2. wayno

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    The air locker its self doesnt change speed in any way except when activated....what changes is people usually change gear ratios when they do the locker. Taller tires decrease final gear ratio and sometime are a negative factor after a certain point.
  3. Doc.Snyder

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    I know that. LOL.
    I first thought you referred to the portals in your previous post (From what I know they are Air activated so run like an open diff until activated with switch in cab..). Hehehhh.

    I think Mav wanted to know what the Portals do to the road handling. not what the lockers do to it.
  4. wayno

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    Ok LOL :lol3
  5. Mav

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    That's right - I wanted to know what it does to road handling. I'm not looking to make my Landy some kind of car... but I do still want to be able to cover long distances rather than make it a challenge truck! And it seems to me that these lift kits everyone goes for don't really help that much... articulation and axle clearance would seem to be the main things that will make a difference. That and lockers...
  6. Jhon

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    Unless you're planning a jungle expedition somewhere like Borneo, you're unlikely ever to need the extra clearance from portal axles.

    Think about it - the majority of guys who do extreme winch challenges or rock-climbing in the US don't have portal axles. None of the Camel Trophy vehicles were ever fitted with them.

    If you want to maximise your ground clearance go to something like a 35" tyre and adjust your diff gearing to suit.

    That, combined with good suspension (Old Man Emu is recommended) and a rear locker (ARB are very good) will take you pretty much anywhere a road-legal wheeled vehicle will go.

    If it's primarily long distance with some off-roading leave the Land-Rover standard. A couple of waffle boards, a Hi-lift jack and a tirfor winch will get you through pretty much anything. It will be more pleasant to drive and will be reliable and easily fixed if something does break.
  7. Mav

    Mav Something witty...

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    This is pretty much what I had in mind for our trip to Africa in a few weeks... the portals just attracted because I'm a sucker for bling :D

    Interesting that you didn't suggest a mounted winch... I've long held the suspicion that unless you go front and back... with a mounted winch you're just as likely to get stuck and in fact might go places you shouldn't go, because you thought your winch would get you out!
  8. Jhon

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    Yeah, I'm a sucker for bling too, that's why I love the idea of portals.

    Vehicle mounted winches have their advantages but also add weight and complexity, not cheap either. Also you need power to run them, not handy if your vehicle battery is flat or the motor won't run.

    If you have a tirfor you can pull the vehicle from any angle and right it in the event of a roll-over. Also, you can transfer it easily between vehicles.

    Tirfors can be hard work - but then again knowing you've got to go through all that hassle, you make damn sure that you don't get stuck in the first place. :D
  9. Motojournalism

    Motojournalism motojournalism.com

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    More LR lust :bow

    Some fine specimens in Guatemala
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/antontrax/4366388949/" title="Way out West-0214 by antontrax, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4366388949_79e39a1bed_b.jpg" width="1024" height="681" alt="Way out West-0214" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/antontrax/4367134942/" title="Way out West-0210 by antontrax, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4367134942_1256a59cb0_b.jpg" width="1024" height="681" alt="Way out West-0210" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/antontrax/4366387953/" title="Way out West-0211-2 by antontrax, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4366387953_6ab5c39eca_b.jpg" width="1024" height="681" alt="Way out West-0211-2" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/antontrax/4294371620/" title="Way out West-1290442 by antontrax, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4294371620_c6ab76395e_b.jpg" width="995" height="1024" alt="Way out West-1290442" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/antontrax/4300812962/" title="Way out West-1290579 by antontrax, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4300812962_69ff9272d7_b.jpg" width="1024" height="648" alt="Way out West-1290579" /></a>

    And a quick glimpse in Costa Rica
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  10. sandgroper

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    That i like, hard to get in OZ
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    Like my GS red goes faster:lol3
  11. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    So what would you LR experts suggest I do with my 2003 4.6 Disco?

    It's just 100K, and I presume something catastrophic will go wrong soon. Does anyone do good diesel conversions? Tranny rebuilds?

    I would rather do it and plan it then get caught suddenly.
  12. Mav

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    Mavette has a similar Disco - and things are starting to go wrong, but nothing that you could've predicted and/or prevented. Like the wheel bearing seal went last week, pissing oil over the break pads to add insult to injury. Every 2 or 3 months it seems something is going wrong. It like the car new that the payments were done on the loan and now it wants the money on repairs!

    So if you love it, keep paying as and when things go wrong. If you don't, get another car!
  13. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    Mrs. Srbenda loves it, and it's paid for, so no sense in getting rid of it, I'd just like to "strengthen" it.

    Preferably with a diesel motor.
  14. Srbenda

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    Oh, pics of said vehicle.

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  15. Fe Man

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    So here is the deal; my eleven year old loves Disco's and claims he wants one for his first car. I had a 96 and absolutely loved it but recognize the inherent issues and I believe I have sorted out a solution to one of my biggest complaints, the engine.

    We intend to put a Cadillac Northstar V8 in a non-running Disco! A clean broken Disco can be purchased for about $8.00 USD and nearly free is a perfect starting point. I am pretty sure I have got all of the details sorted out but we are a couple of years away from starting. If anyone is interested in attempting this feat, I would be happy to assist.
  16. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    No question the engine and tranny are the weak points. I cannot imagine the electronics that a Northstar V8 requires to operate, but that seems like a bit of trouble.
  17. Jman

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    You need to address the head gasket issue on the Northstar first. Best solution is http://www.northstarperformance.com/sgstuds.php Then that motor would be awesome in a Disco.

    I had those studs put in my son's Deville and it is has been perfect ever since.
  18. squonker

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  19. Lewy

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  20. Fe Man

    Fe Man I am Iron Moran!

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    Done and done; figured that had to be addressed before anything else. We are looking for donor vehicles.