Lawrence of Arabia

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by Night Train, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. Night Train

    Night Train Been here awhile

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    Here's a great quote from T.E. Lawrence otherwise known as "Lawrence of Arabia".

    "A skittish motorbike with a touch of blood in it is better than all the riding animals on earth, because of its logical extension of our faculties, and the hint, the provocation, to excess conferred by its honeyed untiring smoothness." -T.E. Lawrence

    He was a Brough Superior enthusiasts and owned 7 of them during his life. The 8th was still under construction when he was killed in a motorcycle accident. Here's a little more about him.

    Lawrence of Arabia
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  2. leafman60

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    If you do a little more research on him, you will find he was, ummm, unusual. Sexual issues etc. Various escapades in the mid-east.
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  3. Night Train

    Night Train Been here awhile

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    I just stick with the motorcycle related parts...
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  4. It'sNotTheBike

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    There are only 702 posts about Lawrence on ADVrider already.


    Maybe next time you can attempt to emulate our friend Lawrence as portrayed
    by O'Toole and extinguish burning matches between your fingers before you post.
    The trick, my dear Night Train, is not minding.



    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=any&safe=images&tbs=&as_filetype=&as_rights=



    And who cares what the guy did in his spare time ? He was a great man, and he
    earned a place in history books, and that's more than most of the jokers who hang
    out on ADVrider will ever do, myself included. Worrying out loud about someone else's
    sexual preferences exposes you as an ignorant bigot, and a man knows it is none of his
    business to be concerned about the private business of other men. Good grief, some of
    you people disgust me.



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  5. Steve G.

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    I've been offering this quote of his to my horse loving little sister, who has an opposing view of TE Lawrence. Oh well.
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  7. Mark Manley

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    Make that 703, here is Colyford filling station which is about 4 miles from here and has been there since 1928, it only stopped selling petrol from these pumps a few years ago. Allegedly Lawrence used to stop here and fill up on his way between Bovington army base and Plymouth which is quite possible as it is about half way and there can't have been too many places to top up back then. Either way it is a popular place for people to pose for photos with their vintage bikes and cars.

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  8. R85/8

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    Maybe so, but that's his business. He was a man ahead of his time in many ways, and perhaps if the British govt had listened to his advice as a man with local knowledge and connections, the troubles that have flared up in the Middle East may not have happened.

    Very few people have been able to write so evocatively about the thrill of motorcycling.

    A fair dinkum hero.
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  9. Rango

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    Various brands to choose from. Now that's what we call service. Do they come with flavours too?:wink:

    Colyford Filling Station: A3052 (Swan Hill Rd), Colyford, Devon.
    coords: N50°43'39.72" W3°03'39.50" ALT11m
    story: http://www.motoringmemories.com/history.html

    And it's on a coastal road too. Picture myself motoring past there too.:deal
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  10. Rob Farmer

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    T.E.Lawrence's House is owned by the National Trust and is open for viewing http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/clouds-hill/visitor-information/

    What is amazing is how many miles he clocked up on the Brough machines in a comparatively short period of time, even more so when you consider the poor quality of the roads and lack of motorways.

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  11. Uncle Pollo

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    No self fellatio ... :(
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  12. Rango

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    I courteously beg to differ
    these roads and machines are married to each other
    why else would we seek them out whenever wherever we can?
    :freaky

    whichever way he was a real afficionado
    A Gentleman and a Rider
    :clap

    Thx for link to Clouds Hill, fascinating retreat.
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  13. WU7X

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    "And who cares what the guy did in his spare time ? He was a great man, and he
    earned a place in history books, and that's more than most of the jokers who hang
    out on ADVrider will ever do, myself included. Worrying out loud about someone else's
    sexual preferences exposes you as an ignorant bigot, and a man knows it is none of his
    business to be concerned about the private business of other men. Good grief, some of
    you people disgust me."

    +1 Well said.
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  14. WU7X

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    Rob, thanks for sharing this photo. I don't think I've ever seen it before. That Brough is just beautiful. Does it have a front brake though? If so, it must have been miniscule.

    When I was a kid, I worked as an usher at the local theater after school. That should date me, eh? Lawrence of Arabia was one of my favorite movies. Still is, matter of fact. The cinematography is just incredible.

    The opening scene has stuck with me from the first time I saw it on the big screen. A solitary Lawrence walking out, fueling the bike and checking the oil. The bike sits impatiently in a courtyard. After starting it up and giving it a final once over with a rag, he gets aboard and flies down that country road. To me, the look on Peter O'Toole's face really captures the total joy of riding at speed. Then, two young lads suddenly appear, oblivious to the motorcycle and rider bearing down on them. Attempting to prevent catastrophe, Lawrence brakes and turns the bike sharply away. He fights for control but fails, and skids off into the brush. We are left watching a wheel slowly spinning in the air. What an incredible way to start a movie! In fact, think I'll have dig out the old DVD and watch it again tonight. I'll have to check to see if I got the scene right. It's been a few years. Thanks again for the memories!
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  15. Rob Farmer

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    He was a fascinating man

    “All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. This I did.”
    — Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T E Lawrence [1922].

    This is the machine he was riding when he was killed. The machine is now in the Imperial war museum

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  16. R85/8

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    Lawrence's post war history is interesting too. He was involved in various projects for the military - I think high speed rescue launches was one I can vaguely remember. I suspect there was more to his position as a lowly RAF serviceman than has been revealed.

    As for his private life, he kept that private, and as he has never been accused of doing anything wrong, it's none of our business.
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  17. Rob Farmer

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    without a doubt.You cannot imagine Churchill saying this of other servicemen.

    "I deem him one of the greatest beings alive in our time... We shall never see his like again. His name will live in history. It will live in the annals of war... It will live in the legends of Arabia."

    - Winston Churchill
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  18. leafman60

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    Good lord. lol

    I havent checked on this thread lately.

    Some of you guys have apparently improperly taken my original post about Lawrence's life. My point was to shed a little light on a man, a time and the history of the middle east that I have studied pretty extensively.

    Sheeze, the true bigots are the ones who can't even analyze reality for fear that they may offend. Lawrence represented much more than a motorcycle ride.

    Yes, he did great things from the perspective of some and terrible things from the perspective of others. His primary contribution to history was to foment Arab uprisings to play into the hands of british political objectives of the day that, in many ways, are the roots of our problems in that part of the world today.

    "Sexual" is a hot button, I guess. Notice, nothing was said about what those issues were ! I mentioned it not to judge or categorize the man but to acknowledge his complicated nature and an issue discussed in analyzing his nature from an historical context. It is but one of many issues with T.E. Lawrence.

    By the way, I'd love to have a Brough Superior too.
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  20. Rob Farmer

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    Maybe that should be - De mortuis nil nisi bene
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