Lawton oklahoma mechanical issues.

Discussion in 'Tejas and the Gulf States' started by redleger, Oct 8, 2013.

  1. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    Ok. So after weeks of working on this bike I am reaching out to the asylum. I have a DRZ 400E that I recently bought. I can not get the thing running right. I would like to request any mechanical geniuses near by help. I am sure its a carb issue but I just can't seem to get it dialed in.

    Would be willing to compensate gas and beverages of your choice or any other deal you would want. If interested post here or PM for phone number.

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  2. DrLewall

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    Stator?? :hmmmmm

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  3. okietrailboss

    okietrailboss Been here awhile

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    How does it run? Will it start? What's it doing

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  4. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    Starts fine. I am having issues with running at 1/4 throttle through 3/4 throttle. I thought I had it dialed in. Took it for a ride and at about 10 min it started back firing loud and constant on acceleration. FCR carb is new to me. Jetting or needle is off but it could possibly be something different. I am just to the point where I am frusterated and I feel like some one with better skills could help me and I could turn it into a learning experience.

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  5. DrLewall

    DrLewall The Human GPS

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    is there a inline fuel filter? If not, very possible that you may have sucked up some debris into one of the jets. Make double sure that ALL jets and ports that are not supposed to be plugged up, are not. Good luck
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  6. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    How do I know which ports should not be plugged up? No inline fuel filter.

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  7. BigShooter

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    disassemble the carb, including all jets, etc.. get a can of B-12 or other suitable carb cleaner with a straw attachment and blow a blast through ever hole and passage from every direction you can. card should be exercised when doing this, as one hole you blow through may exit in a totally different direction, or be a blind hole, and by default, this will be the one pointing right at your eyes. <dont ask how i know this, lol, but carb cleaner in the eyes is extremely painful
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  8. dallasdrz

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    Also check the diaphragm, it could have crap in it.

    Check the pump squirt too.

    If all fail post on thumpertalk, you'll get plenty of help there.
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  9. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    Posted hete and TT. Followed all instructions. Just feeling frusterated because I have been over it all and I think I am missing something

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  10. okietrailboss

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    Sounds like it might be too rich what's the airbox and filter like try it without the filter if it gets better put smaller main jet

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  11. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    I have a four day weekend this weekend. I will be tearing it all apart friday morning. Be on the lookout for posts with pics here and drz forum asking for help.

    Also still open to some one experienced coming and lending a hand. I'm stationed at fort sill. I promise this is not a fake request to lure you in and eat your face lol.

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  12. okietrailboss

    okietrailboss Been here awhile

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  13. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    That is very informative. Thank you. Friday I will be getting in on this.

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  14. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    If I am reading this right, and that is a big IF, and between 0 and 1/4 opening is when I am having problems such as popping and dying at stops, then that is a jet/fuel screw issue. Since it is not a gynormous issue last last 3 rides, I am guessing it is a fuel screw issue. Question is, popping up beginning to accelerate and dying at stop signs on a stop means that I am rich? I doubt I need to go bigger on the jet. Its pretty big.

    The rain starting slowed me down in ride testing, but same thing. It only happens when everything is warm and it has been ridden for at least 10 minutes. Just went to the store to grab something and as soon as I pulled on my street I started to hear the backfiring again at about 15 MPH 2nd gear barely on the throttle.

    Im gonna come out 1/2 a turn, see if it gets worse, if it does then I am going to go in 3/4 a turn. If this seems off someone please stop me.
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  15. _cy_

    _cy_ Long timer

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    in Tulsa .. first thing you need to do is narrow down which of three things that can cause similar symptoms.

    mechanical, fuel or electrical ...

    to eliminate fuel .. take off filter and spray starter fluid directly into carb opening. if all hesitation goes away with starter fluid. then proceed to overhaul carb.

    intermittent electrical is a bit harder to track. what I use is a portable ignition system which puts a continuous arc to plugs. if problem goes away .. then track down ignition

    mechanical is last .. go for low hanging fruit first. you need compression gauge and leak down tester to access health.
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  16. dallasdrz

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    Pilot jet clogged and/or if you reinstalled your after market mixture screw .
    It's o-ring, washer then spring.
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  17. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    So the spring goes on over the o-ring? Thought it went on top

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  18. dallasdrz

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    Sorry , slide spring over screw, then washer, then o-ring.
    It can be a balancing act when installing bowl and screw .


    I'm assuming you already thoroughly cleaned card including diaphragm?

    I just replaced a clogged pilot jet on my Beta (fcr carb) a did a quick clean after it set during the summer and I'll be damned if it ran like crap a week later.
    Pulled it apart and pilot was clogged again,
    Needless to say I took my time and cleaned it again and dumped old gas outta tank.
    Runs great now.
    Everything you say sounds like something clogged in your carb.

    And one time my DRZ was sputtering really bad and finally died after couple of rides like that and it ended being my stator, pulled cover and the wire clamp cam loose cutting into my wires.
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  19. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    ok, thats how it was. But it was too short so I put the stock one back on, because it could not be adjusted with the after market screw. didnt get to it today, Imma try to make time tomorrow. Kids will be in school so it should be easy unless the wife decides she likes me tomorrow, then Ill be with her. :huh
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  20. redleger

    redleger Horrible Mechanic

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    Ok so old problem fixed I think. Now a new problem. I rode into work today again thinking I had everything worked out. Now after everything got warm it would die when ever I stopped and when I would go to hit the magic button nothing would happen. Literally nothing. No sound from starter. It was dying every time I moved forward waiting in the line to get on post. I eventually had to stop and call for a ride. Had someone follow me home and the shorter ride with fewer stops yielded better results. Is this a idle jet issue or could it be electric? I know squat about trouble shooting electrical issues. Could this still be a carb issue.

    Also first liquid cooled bike and first time with a temp gauge. No owners manual so how hot is too hot? Waiting in line at idle today it hit 206 max temp. Seems high to me but I didn't see any drainage into the overflow. It is full on coolant I checked it this weekend.



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