LC: my heated grips suck come on bmw

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  1. hammick

    hammick Long timer

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    I know others feel the same. I rode six hours today in the forties and fifties and had cold hands with grips on high and my winter gloves. The previous models would get nice and hot.

    I thought there was going to be a software update to fix this? Anybody have any skinny from their dealer or bmw?
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  2. backroadbill

    backroadbill Been here awhile

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    Had mine a week or two, not nearly as hot as my 08 grips were.
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    BMW got complaints that they were too hot, but I liked them fine also.
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  4. Cap0ne

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    Same on mine. And not with winter gloves, but with some spring/autumn ones, @5-7°C... And also it seems they need a long time to get "hot". I'll ask my dealer if there is a fix.
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  5. hammick

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    Just spoke with my service department. They haven't heard of the problem and no software update. We can only hope BMW fixes it when and update comes out assuming it can be fixed.
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  6. Smoke Eater 3

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    Mine are too hot on high and pretty good on low. I've been out riding in the 30's recently. They heat up fast too. By the time the bike is up to temp so are the grips. No problems at all.
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  7. Dr. Greg

    Dr. Greg Tryin' to get home..

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    During my last ride (30s F), I've had it with the LC heated grips. With winter gloves, the HI setting is nowhere near warm enough.

    My 2010 Multistrada had GREAT (3 level) heated grips...even the DualStar cheapies I installed on my old Uly were better than the GS LC.

    A related question: are the grip heaters integral with the grips on the LC? Can you replace grips (I like Progrip 714s)?

    --Doc
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  8. GB

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    You can't replace the grips, the heating and wiring is integral, but you could add those Oxford heated grip temporary wraps. You put them on when you want them and take them off when you don't.
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  9. hammick

    hammick Long timer

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    You have a water cooled GS?
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  10. Smoke Eater 3

    Smoke Eater 3 Long timer

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    I do have a water cooled GS and I actually ride in cold weather here in Maine.
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  11. hammick

    hammick Long timer

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    Do you use grip puppies or something similar? I wonder if the 2014 grips are hotter?

    I'm going to put my temperature meter on them and also try to get a reading from my friend's 2012 GSA that also has grip puppies.
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  12. Dr. Greg

    Dr. Greg Tryin' to get home..

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    I'll be very interested in your observations. This is really my first (and hopefully only) "negative" re the LC.

    However, this IS my first BMW (after 56 years of riding)...maybe I'm just being gently introduced to the wonderful world of "TADT".

    Cheers,

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  13. Dr. Greg

    Dr. Greg Tryin' to get home..

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    GB, I trust you, but what about THIS THREAD? Looks like the heating elements are the "typical" printed-circuit plastic sheeting underneath the rubber grip. Doesn't really look "integral."

    Seems like if one were careful, one could certainly remove/replace the grip. Of course, I've been wrong before...

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  14. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    Taken from the Max BMW online parts fiche....the extent of the heated grips,

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  15. mefly2

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    Hmmmm ... with single thickness leather gloves and weather in the 30 degrees range at 50mph - I have to reduce my grip heat from high to low to keep the temp pleasant. Perhaps if I was riding longer or faster, the heat would not be enough, but for me the grip heat works fine. I initially start on high grip heat and then reduce to low if around town at speeds of 35-40 mph.

    On my last two BMWs, I put the neoprene sleeves over the grips for added cushion and that really restricted the heat transfer form the grip to my hand. On the GSW, I have not added the neoprene sleeve and so far have plenty of heat. YMMV
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  16. ShaftEd

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    Mostly riding in SoCal, it's not that big of an issue, but yes the GSW heated grips do not run as hot as my 2007 GS heated grips.
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  17. szazbo

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    I found this on the UK GS site, haven’t tried it but an interesting explanation typical for BMW<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    So it is not the grips, it is the over engineered complicated electrickery telling the grips what to do. Another BMW example of perceived progress.<o:p></o:p>
    Got the bike back and yup this does seem to be the problem, over complicated control gizmos.<o:p></o:p>
    But the explanation and word around does seem to hold up.<o:p></o:p>
    First bit of advice is to actively switch the grips off before you switch off the ignition, don't leave them on. If the bike is started with the grips on, they will hold around 40% poewr and will not improve when the bike is running.<o:p></o:p>
    So start the bike, get it moving, then switch them on.
    When you slow down for junctions / lights etc. the revs drop to below 2k, the grips drop to 40%
    But once the revs exceed 3k, the grips go back to 100% power.
    Is this a faff, Yup!
    Is it an acceptable fix, Hell No!
    Are my hands warmer now I have been re-taught to use a simple on off switch, YES,
    <o:p></o:p>
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  18. hammick

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    I am the OP of this thread and my grips on my '13 GSW still suck.

    I just bought a '14 R1200RTW and the heated grips get nice and hot to the point where I have to turn them down even with grip puppies.

    Come on BMW both of these bikes have the same Linbus computer system. Only difference is the GS has high and low and the RT has five or six settings.

    I want my GS grips hot like the RT.

    I will do the temperature experiment I mentioned above using both bikes.
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  19. Kevin Dixon

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    Mine are fantastic. I usually have to switch to low after a few minutes. Riding in low 40s here. 2014 GSW
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