leading link forks?

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by transalpian, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. transalpian

    transalpian Over, Across, and Through

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    I'm pretty much committed to 100% hack use on my rig so I'm interested in a set of leading link forks.

    My pusher/tug is a '77 GL1000. Any "reasonable" options out there? What is the used market like for these forks (any options at all?)

    All opinions are welcomed!

    'alp
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  2. esondeen

    esondeen n00b

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    Doyne Bruner @ Apex Motorsports is a Wiz. He's got a new 6 deg triple tree at 1/2 cost of LL. I'll have the GL1800 done next week.
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  3. transalpian

    transalpian Over, Across, and Through

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    I've read about this concept, bot not really sure about the process. Is this a change to the triple tree (i.e. not easily reversible) or more of a bolt on thing like the leading links?

    Also, does he need the bike in his shop to do this? Location becomes a problem for me in so many cases anymore....

    Thanks for the lead and information!

    'alp
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  4. cwadej

    cwadej Keeper of the truth

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    Not sure of this one, but most tree mods are a permanant change to the trees. They basically cut your trees and extend them, for and aft, reducing trail. Or so the fella at Steerite said. They are way pricey so I'm still looking before I have my trees done.
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  5. angysdad

    angysdad 2 kids = 1 sidecar

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  6. transalpian

    transalpian Over, Across, and Through

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    That looks..... interesting?

    What LL do you have on your k bike? Did you do the install? Any issues?

    Thanks!

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  7. angysdad

    angysdad 2 kids = 1 sidecar

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    It's an EML LL (same as sidecar) installed at the factory (Holland) in 1985...24yrs before I bought it!
    No issues. It's like have power steering.
    I am fairly new to sidecars (4yrs), and I am mechanically challenged. I know nothing about the Steerite mod, but lots of people swear by it. I do not know if it conmpensates for lateral forces of sidecars. I like the look/feel of LL.
    My buddy at CSR sidecars (Maxville, Ontario) builds centre hubs for racing/street application :evil He has a homebuilt LL that would probably fit, if you are not into looks...it's made with square alum tubing, and frankly, I do not like the look. But it's Nascar tough.

    http://www.csrsidecars.webs.com/

    Here's mine...


    <a href="http://s878.photobucket.com/albums/ab345/angysdad/?action=view&current=LLEML.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab345/angysdad/LLEML.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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  8. angysdad

    angysdad 2 kids = 1 sidecar

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  9. transalpian

    transalpian Over, Across, and Through

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    I dropped the folks at eurowing a note about the EML forks, we'll see how that goes.

    I really like the Wasp forks, but haven't heard back from them yet. Any hints here?

    The Unit forks are a little clunky looking to me, but might work if Wasp and/or EML wash out.

    Anyone have any other recommendations?
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  10. transalpian

    transalpian Over, Across, and Through

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    I've looked into this conversion, and while it can be done, I'm trying to persue the more "elegant" options first.

    Also, at $900 plus the conversion to fit the GL1000, its not much less that the $2-3k ready-built options out there.

    Thanks for keeping an eye out though!
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  11. Dickie

    Dickie Seasoned Sidecarist

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    Home made forks on a Suzuki 1100G

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    EZS forks on a Pan Euro 1100. Ive riden this outfit & it handles really well. No white lining as it runs only a 145 tyre.

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    Another Pan 1100 with EZS forks

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    Unit forks on a BMW K1000

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    More unit forks

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    Another way to do it!

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    And how about these? No idea of make!

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    Wasp LL on a 1300 Pan Euro

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  12. transalpian

    transalpian Over, Across, and Through

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    Really nice forks!

    What shocks are you running on these? Spring rate is? Floating caliper seems to be the consensus way to go. Any thoughts on this?

    I wish Wasp would even return an email, but they are probably too expensive for me anyway...

    Really nice forks!
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  13. chairhead

    chairhead HAIRY

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    Wasp forks run to about £1400,and use Bilstein shocks,you can also use your own shocks if you have a set,im surprised you have had no reply from
    Wasp,did you email them in the UK?
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  14. transalpian

    transalpian Over, Across, and Through

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    I emailed Rob at 'rob@rhind-tutt6362.fsnet.co.uk' last Thursday. As of right now, no response. Maybe they're closed for holiday?

    'alp
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  15. Dickie

    Dickie Seasoned Sidecarist

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    Ive e-mailed wasp recently & had no reply either! No idea whats going on there.
    Floating calipers are the way to go unless your pivot point is as far back as possible & your outfit is heavy then non floating can do the job but not quite as well in my opinion.
    I think my 1500 wing is running 190 shocks made by progressive suspension.
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  16. Sidecarjohn

    Sidecarjohn SidecarJohn

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    Firstly, I understand Robin Rhind Tutt of Wasp is effectively semi retired, which may account for no response, so perhaps a general email to Wasp Engineering might do the trick. Certainly my last contact barely a year ago identified Wasp produce a significantly large range of bike options on their leading link forks.

    Existing fork amendment via so called triple trees is a viable option, so enquiries to Doyne Bruner at Apex Sports in Colorado Springs is worthwhile. Maybe he can advise on whether his offerings are straight forward replacements, or the amended variety.

    Having ridden outfits with both leading links and different triple trees, I can say both impress me for the job they do. However, there are lots of other things to consider such as wheels and tyres. The triple tree option means a potentially simpler route with just consideration given to the tyre, possibly by using a suitable sized rear bike tyre.
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  17. transalpian

    transalpian Over, Across, and Through

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    I picked up a used set of Unit forks and will now begin the transformation. I'm thinking of using a HD 16" front wheel to allow a more meaty tire. It also has the benefit of being cheap and available since the Harley guys seem to swap wheels pretty quickly after purchase.

    I may even go with a fatboy wheel, powdercoated black.

    'alp
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