LED Auxiliary Lights

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by sanjoh, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. viz

    viz I Ride Ms Piggy

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    OK - a stab in the dark - your system is being spiked by the relay coil when switching. I use a diode protected relay and run 6 LED lights including the dimmer from this one relay - no issues whatsoever. Trigger is from the high beam switch.

    From this mob "Voltage spikes from 300V to 500V can occur momentarily when a relay is switched. Sensitive electronic equipment can be damaged or malfunctions can occur if these spikes reach the vehicle electrical network without suppression. A relay with a resistor reduces these voltage spikes to less than 100 Volts. A relay with a diode eliminates them completely."

    viz
  2. OzRider64

    OzRider64 Friggen slow Adventurer.

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    G'day Sanjoh,

    On October of last year I purchased a pair of model 44's.

    I have just got around to installing them on my 2010 R1200GS as of Feb of this year.

    One of the lights over the last few days is starting to pick up a slight flicker.

    I am running them through a Skene Products IQ-170, Cyclenutz Mini Handlebar Switch to turn the lights on and off and the power is run through a PC8 Fuseblock.

    Is this a LED problem or a connection problem??

    Over the last month the lights have been superb, great product.:wink:

    Any help much appreciated.


    Simon.
  3. FlyingPig

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    What's odd is that one light is purely clean, while one has condensation on the inside of the lens, which makes one light look new and one look crummy when looking at the lights physically.

    Sanjoh, can you comment on the condensation on the inside of the lens? Seems like a fault to me as it's only on one of my lights and not on both when they are mounted only inches apart from each other....
  4. bandera

    bandera Adventurer

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    Thank you for the suggestion and I think you are right. I need to completely isolate the light circuit from the bike. My desire was to use the high beam switch or turn signal cancellation switch vs. another button at the controls to fumble with, but that clearly ain't gonna happen.

    Cheers!
  5. Throttle-jockey

    Throttle-jockey Adventurer

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    I installed my dimmer last night with the 44's. When they are dimmed I get some flickering of the lights. Is this normal?

    Also the light brackets are disappointing. I can't angle them up high enough w/o bending the brackets. Too bad they don't come with the heavy duty brackets.
  6. FlyingPig

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    So Sanjoh, I finally got around to taking the pics since I haven't heard back.

    As you can see, I didn't mess around and open the lens at all, so what's up with the condensation in one (and not in the other)?

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  7. sanjoh

    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    Just returned from an ADV get together that was out of cell range:clap

    You need to look at your factory electrical schematic to locate the wire.

    Sometimes it is easier to start from the headlight and work backwards.

    The condensation is not normal. I recommend removing the sticker, remove the bezel (using a strap wrench) and inspect the orings in the light. Use some petroleum jelly to lube the orings, reinstall using the strap wrenchs. The condensation can be from a loose bezel, damaged or dried out oring etc.

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    Please call 954 993 5581 and we can walk through troubleshooting your install.
  8. sanjoh

    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    Hi Simon,

    I recommend checking your connections. While you have them apart a bit of dielectric grease will keep them trouble free.

    John
  9. sanjoh

    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    Flickering is not normal, are you using an ADVmonster dimmer or ?

    The HD brackets use the same design to limit travel as the standard bracket.

    If you post pics of your lights mounted, I can make recommendations how to bring the light up. The light mount can be configured in several different positions.
  10. Throttle-jockey

    Throttle-jockey Adventurer

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    Yes, I'm using your dimmer. I'll post a pic up of them mounted tonight. They are on an ST1300 under the mirrors, just like on your site of the 1100.
  11. FlyingPig

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    Thanks for the response. Looks like I need to add a strap wrench to my toolkit. Just wanted to make sure there wouldn't be future warranty-related issues if I removed the sticker since those are usually put in place to prevent customers from tampering.

    Also, interesting with the double o-rings. I was always under the impression that there should only be one mated to two surfaces, never to each other.
  12. sanjoh

    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    I'll look for your pics.

    No problem removing it.

    The oring on the body of the light seals the bezel/body and keeps stuff out of the threads. The oring in the bezel seal the lens/bezel. Kind of an oring sandwich, the two orings do not come in contact with each other.
  13. Throttle-jockey

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    Here you go.
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    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    It looks like you are really close to an optimal position. If you only need a few degres of movement, I would grab the light and gently bend the bracket. If you are more than a few degrees, I'd recommend unscrewing the heatsink and flipping the mount bracket 180 degrees.

    Could you describe the flickering you are seeing with the lights? Does it happen with the high beam on?
  16. Throttle-jockey

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    The flickering happens when they are dimmed, kind of like a pulsing. It doesn't happen if they are almost full power. More on the left side which has longer wires going to it. (farther away from the dimmer)

    Also is it normal to not be able to get full power using the dimmer unless you hit high beam?
  17. bandera

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    Good morning - I left 2 detailed messages but did not get a response.

    By the way, I am helping another guy out at the K-Bike community with the exact same problem--switching on the lights throws an ABS Brake failure warning and knocks out his cruise control.

    My next step is to take the advice of an inmate and completely isolate them from the bike. I hope this works because they go in the trash after that.
  18. FlyingPig

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    Interesting. I had the same effect with the flickering in one mode. But the dimmer I went with has 3 modes, so the flickering mode is now fully off just in case a LEO wants to give me grief for a non-DOT light :deal
  19. Low594

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    Mine also flickered, for about 50 miles, then both lights turned off! Turned out the ground terminal had broken! Does sound like the same issue others are dealing with, but always worth a thought!
  20. viz

    viz I Ride Ms Piggy

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    I have flickering too with the dimmmer on its lowest setting. This is especially apparent immediately after start-up - I am thinking low voltage

    viz