Legal Consequences of Lane Splitting/Filtering?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by duncanmac, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. duck

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    Agreed. I used to work and drive in the Boston area too. Driving is much more of a competitive sport there.

    If you want to see a place with truly bad drivers by any standard then go to British Columbia. Not all of them are bad but their proportion of bad drivers is pretty high. I always stay clear of cars with BC plates.
  2. Downs

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    A lot of states do not have laws for or against it. Texas is one of them for instance. The AMA's website is a good resource to find info on what's legal in what state and what states don't even address the issue of lane sharing.

    http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/Rights/State-Laws.aspx

    Edit- They seem to have changed up their website a little bit. The used to put "Not Referenced" on there if there was no law on the books one way or another. Now they put "Not Authorized" But for states that have no law for or against they do not provide a link to the statute or code since it doesn't exist.
  3. GeckoRider

    GeckoRider Been here awhile

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    A quote from one of the paramedics I worked with in the Bay Area, "They are fine drivers, from the countries they come from". Pulling up behind a car with lights/sirens in the "fast lane" having them pull over to the left up against the crash barrier and stop, in the fast lane, was so common leaving you no room but to pass them on the right. 9/10 times they were some sort of Asian. Maybe the rest of CA is better but parts of CA are "odd" to say the least.

    But after living in NYC for 6+ years I am glad to be back. Yellow cabs scare the shit out of me, and traffic is a nightmare there. Now that I am old/slower/wiser, I won't filter unless traffic is basically at a stand still. I do move to a part of my lane to move up if I feel those behind me are asleep. I leave huge gaps between me and the car ahead, just to give the car behind me more time to slow down.

    And in the Bay Area my experience has been white pickups like the F150 are the most common to be aggressive. While on the bicycle in SF city proper (long before critical mass was a big thing) it was luxury sedans that tried to hit me. Guess on one hand the working stiff contractor can't stand seeing someone get home before they do, and the other when you have spent 60K+ on your car how dare a simple bicycle share a lane with you.
  4. Ianstein

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    On my trip across the US, the only place I felt even tempted to lane split was on the California freeways. Everywhere else, traffic either moved quick or people didn't block the passing lane.

    That said....the CA freeways were scary and riding the car pool lane or lane splitting was probably the only thing that kept me alive. Afternoon traffic on a 90 degree day was just about suicide. After 30 minutes of combating shitty asian lady drivers, I said fuck the consequences and just split till i found a lane with a huge gap and got the hell out of there. At the time I didn't know you could lane split and CHP was everywhere.

    Didn't find out till I was in Colorado lane splitting was legal :D
  5. mylovelyhorse

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    Ha! Sir has clearly not been to Poland or (worse) Ukraine. I cannot think of a time when I've been so frequently scared by other road users... Even the Russians were better drivers than either the Polish or the Ukrainians... :(

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  6. rocker59

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    As was mentioned earlier, if you are riding where the riding is good, splitting and filtering will not be needed.
  7. atomicalex

    atomicalex silly aluminum boxes

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    That's what they do here in Germany....

    Regarding drivers in the US, I've driven all over, and Boston is by far the most aggressive, anger-filled city I have been in. Even the Beltway is not as aggressive, but it is anger-filled! CA, OTOH, is more like Germany - fast, lots of speed differentials, but organized. The CA traffic seemed a bit resigned to being in traffic, but not terribly upset about it. Just waiting it out, enjoying the sun and some tunes. When I can hear your radio through my helmet, well....

    I am looking forward to coming home to Detroit, I can see that it might be a bit of a surprise when I ride up along side of someone, but my German is pretty good.... Can't wait to be the next "Mrs Z"*


    *Dieter Zetsche's rule-breaking wife, who was arrested at least once for forgetting that she was not in Germany any more.
  8. Gummee!

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    Try driving on I-10 thru Phx and down to Tucson or up the I-70 corridor thru CO. People camping in the left lane makes my head explode.

    Sharing lanes involves another skill-set that not many get to practice. Get good at it and you find gaps appearing almost as if magic. You find that you can predict what's going to happen a few cars ahead of you based on what you're seeing/hearing. etc. Trick is doing it consistently.

    Oh, and watch yer friggen mirrors! There WILL be people sharing faster than you. Get the funk outta the way and let em past. :nod

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  9. DOGSROOT

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    OMFG, yes!!!

    I concur, and add that the bad ones are really BAD, as in not-a-freakin'-clue bad.

    (A small plus: Vangroovey has a decent system of back-street bike lanes that removes a % of bicycles from the roads.)




    Duncanmac, it ain't just in Oz where road users dislike bicycles.

    Perhaps it's because in any collision, it's often (unreasonably) automatically assumed

    that the big bad car was in the wrong?

    Many bicyclists constantly ignore all traffic laws, and then of course want to apply the full weight of those traffic laws

    anytime there is an *accident*; no wonder they are viewed as a menace.

    Nobody likes a hypocrite. :wink:

    Solution=GoPro.

    I dislike the extreme disconnect here in Toronto between their lawless conduct on the roads,

    and the incessant political clamouring for "more rights".

    All the rights in the world won't help you when you're stuck under a truck; just ride safe!
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  10. Petzl

    Petzl Hmmmm...

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    I ride to New york City everyday about a 25 mile trip to work. I pretty much lane split on the way home everyday. I havent had too many issues with cagers. Maybe a handful in the 2 years I have been doing it.
    I have actually driven right past a LEO and No issues so far.
    I drive through at less than 25mph and I will have to say MOST cars will move over for me. When they do I try to always give a polite wave to them. It seems to help them remember for the next time.

    Lucky So Far...
  11. Downs

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    When I rode in NYC we sat in traffic for a few minutes before the bikes started passing us filtering then we pulled out and did the same.


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  12. Gummee!

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    FWI've been told, the NYPD takes a dim view on sharing/filtering. I've seen pics from inmates that've been stopped (or had just escaped being stopped) at checkpoints. Be careful

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  13. GeckoRider

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    Check points in NYC are a whole other thing. They are fishing for bikes without registration and insurance. After six years there I never got hooked but I did not ride much in the city as I found it super awful after having lived in CA. Escape from NY indeed.
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    I think the Motorcycle only checkpoints should be unconstitutional.:splat I am glad Texas doesn't have them.:clap
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    +1

    That there's profiling.

    Never heard of this before.

    Don't like it much. :kboom
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    You can thank the current administration in Washington for providing earmarked funds for motorcycle checkpoints.

    Michigan doesn't have checkpoints of any kind. They have to stop ALL vehicles or NONE. An Attorney General's Opinion that carries the force of law.
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    I am recalling that Calif. passed a law in 2012 that prohibits mc only checkpoints in Calif.
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    I didn't vote for the current administration, neither this time, nor in 2008. Unfortunately there are plenty of idiots in the rest of the country.
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    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/02/congress-motorcycle-checkpoints.html


    http://viewsinpolitics.com/www__Dmo...ional-Letter-Seeks-To-End-Feder__leeterry.php


    http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/rights/motorcycleonlycheckpoints.aspx