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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by duncanmac, Dec 25, 2012.
You are consistently AWESOME!!!
I lane filter all the time here in Atlanta. The worst that has ever happened is a few honks from drivers here and there. The Atlanta and Dekalb (metro) police seem more or less ok with it. The state police, however, are a different breed.
That gets to my main point:
You're in a foreign country. The biggest problem with lane filtering here is that you don't know the roads, the local driving customs, the differences in law enforcement departments and their practices. I do filter fairly regularly but I ride on the Downtown Connector every day so I know the roads very well.
That said... I think you can get away with it in Chicago and NYC. Maybe just follow other bikers.
Youy shoulda made it a poll...
No, none. I don't give a fk about laws especially stoopid ones. They have NOTHING to do with me sustaining MY life!
Thank you once again to those who contributed positively to the thread. Main objective achieved, which was to gain a better understanding about what might happen should I filter. Some of the digressions from the posted topic proved informative as well.
Interesting to see that this topic presses buttons across the English speaking world.
It's always nice to see inmates helping inmates, and the accompanying spirited debate never fails to amuse.
As far as pressing buttons across the world, I think EVERY topic presses someone's buttons on ADV!
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This guy made it out alive. He got launched into the back of the pick up. The two in the background are the ones who were in the red car.
Minor Injuries on this one. Truck struck a car which then rearended this motor officer
Ruptured Spleen, broken vertebrae, car that hit him driver didn't have license or insurance go figure This one was local to me here int he DFW area
Another lucky one here. Lady was on her cell phone
This lady got killed. Pretty sure it made the rounds on the internet a bunch of times.
I split lanes I'd much rather have a sideswipe than a rear end.
I live in WA but ride in CA a fair amount so it drives me absolutely NUTS at home to come up to a stop light and not be able to filter without risking a ticket. Grrr....
Even in states where it's not legal I'll filter a couple cars up just so I'm not the meat in a car sandwich. If I'm with a group in a non splitting state I aim the bike around the bikes/cars ahead of me and watch the mirrors just in case I have to pull out for a car not stopping in time.
...and keep the bike in gear ready to squeeze thru the gap till at least 2 cars are behind you
+1 to this. I live in the Washington DC metro area and keep red light defense in mind always. Just yesterday a lady in the lane next to me failed to notice the stale red light I and a couple cars were sitting at, and nearly made it into the cross lanes on screeching tires.
There's a lot of under-skilled, over privileged drivers in the US so be on your guard for crummy driving. The US has one of the lowest, or possibly the lowest threshold for someone to obtain a drivers licence in the developed world.
I'm in Florida and I've only done a right-turn filter. This just means that I'll use the right-hand margin to advance to a right-turning lane if I'm stopped at a light no more than 4 or 5 car lengths away.
I realize this makes me a terrorist, but you infidels have it coming.
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Why, we are used being treated that way after waiting in line for 2 hours to get to one of the few open immigration counters at the airport and applying for a travel permit 3 days in advance so we are even allowed to get on the states-bound airplane.
At least the rozzers here never tried to charge me for something I didn't do to get out a bribe like in other countries.
Although that "Out of my randomly parked car I estimate your speed was xx" comes awfully close. I am still amazed that this holds up to civilized law.
One thing to watch out for on these roads is phones. Virtually every time I see someone exhibiting really stupid or annoying driving in the US, they are on the phone. And the "only me" attitude transformation as soon as they get in their cars can be scary. Almost as bad as Puerto Rico.
Must be related to the personality transformation some people get when they enter the internets.
The LA Times has a good article (with video) on lane splitting/filtering today. The comments section is interesting, too. Lots of comments from both riders and cagers.
I would argue that I am serving all commuters and consequently all society by using the pavement that automobiles can't. I'm subtracting one 4,000-pound box from the endless line of boxes keeping each other from getting where they are going.
The small price in psychic discomfort less fortunate four-wheeled commuters pay for my service could easily be palliated by a road trip to say, Paris, where the culture of the super freeway has evolved to afford the motorcycle an exalted place.
On Boulevard Périphérique, the perpetually gridlocked 22-mile loop that circumnavigates the city, motorcycles own the space between the number one and number two lanes. If my sudden appearance in your mirror rattles you, you have no idea how panicked you'd feel on seeing a phalanx of 20 or 30 Ducatis, BMWs, Yamahas and Hondas charging from the rear at twice your speed. So many commuters ride rather than drive that they create their own traffic pattern, bunching up in formations that whoosh by slower moving cars every 30 seconds or so.
I wouldn't call it a good article unfortunately. I would call it an OK article that left out many, many societal benefits to lane-splitting. Instead of "one less car" it's 50,000 fewer cars. No mention at all of gas savings, or pollution benefits. You could go on and on about keeping petro-dollars out of the hands of terrorists, etc.
Mythbusters did an episode on how green bikes are vs. cars. Bikes win the MPG contest easily, but bikes also spew out much more of other types of garbage than cars do.
I'm not a big fan of riding w/ others in general, but I especially avoid riding behind stinky bikes.
I can really smell the difference between Kat/Non-Kat.
(Could of course also just have been older, poorly tuned bikes...)
I cannot believe folks "lightening up" their bikes by removing the Kat.
Expensive way to pollute.
Easier/cheaper way to lose 4 kg would be to lose the beer-belly.
Of course, it often does SOUND better...
However, I wear sound-eliminating earplugs anyway, so I don't really care about sounding "cool".
But traffic is reduced so it is a net win. A car sitting in traffic idling at 5 mph can in no way compete with a bike that is splitting and moving.
If 10% of drivers switched to motorcycles there would be a 40% recuction in traffic.