Legal to stand up while riding?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by niceviewbehindbars, May 27, 2010.

  1. Tall Man

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    Same here. My comfort and safety (the two reasons I will stand on the pegs, however briefly) comes first. Always.
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  2. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    When riding long distances, I end up standing a lot. Even at 75mph on the interstate. I do it to relieve my butt burn and stretch. I had no idea it wasn't legal to stand in some states.

    Has anybody been given a citation?
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  3. SRMN8R

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    Graham,

    I asked my neighbor (VSP trooper) that very question. Actually, I asked him to research the Code of VA to find out if it was actually prohibited by code. He replied that as long as the rider has both feet on the pegs, and both hands on the bars, and the action (standing on the pegs) was not careless, or reckless, or determined to be "stunting", then it is lawful.

    He also said that as long as you're not acting like a squid (his term), nobody will ever bother you. (I'm not so sure about that part... some guys are looking for any reasonable suspicion to make a traffic stop).

    - Jimmy
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  4. idealistix

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    I don't know if it is legal and I don't care. I usually stand up on the pegs for about 20 seconds at a time on hot days to get more airflow. I do it only at lower speeds (< 50 mph) and in light traffic. I am fully in control of the bike and I have never been stopped for doing this.
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  5. DAKEZ

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    YES.

    I bumped Belgum Waffles thread on the matter for all to see.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=431005&highlight=standing+pegs

    Here is more on Virginia.

    Check Code of Virginia 46.2-909. Not knowing Virginia law or how things are looked at there, this a problematic code. I would assume that in spirit, it is meant to keep people from riding on handlebars bicycle style or just hanging off or sitting on the bike any old way. Read literally though, it says you will ride upon the seat. Get a cop who is reading it for what it says vs spirit of the law, you could get cited. But then again it all depends too what precedence has been set, if any.

    § 46.2-909. Riding on motorcycles, generally.
    Every person operating a motorcycle, as defined in § 46.2-100 excluding three-wheeled vehicles, shall ride only upon the permanent seat attached to the motorcycle, and such operator shall not carry any other person. No other person shall ride on a motorcycle unless the motorcycle is designed to carry more than one person, in which event a passenger may ride on the permanent seat if designed for two persons, or on another seat firmly attached to the rear or side of the seat for the operator. If the motorcycle is designed to carry more than one person, it shall also be equipped with a footrest for the use of such passenger.
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  6. SRMN8R

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    I pointed that code out to my neighbor, who assures me that case law does not support a summons for standing on the pegs, if such action is not careless or reckless in nature.

    YMMV...
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  7. DAKEZ

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    As it should be. :thumb

    I stumbled upon that in the other thread and since you had inquired I thought I would throw it up.
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    What a fricking as_hole. I'm a long time Harley rider. I have to ignore some of the comments made about Harley's and their riders that are made by some in this forum. I love all American and European made two wheelers. I can say I&#8217;ve never owned a bike with more than 3 cylinders. I&#8217;ve never own an Asian bike and I don&#8217;t have anything ageist anyone who does. It&#8217;s not fair and please DO NOT judge us all in the same category as this idiot. I don't know who this guy was trying to impress but it&#8217;s just a good think his runaway bike didn't hit an innocent person in the parking lot. It appears he wasn&#8217;t hurt seriously but he should have castrated himself as a result so not to pollute the gene pool. You think he might learn his lesson when he gets the repair bill but I hardy doubt it.
    :deal

    When Indian Larry was killed doing the same thing without a helmet the comment was &#8220;He did it 1,000 times before&#8221;. I just had to chuckle apparently it can only be done 1,000 time by any individual because the 1001 time will kill you.
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  9. Tome

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    If anyone is interested not been pulled in the UK for it. I do it in town sometimes to see over traffic before filtering.

    Also, bungee cord is perfectly acceptable for 'securely attached' :D
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  10. milwaukeemadass

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    I like how after a very, very brief glance towards the bike this clown is more concerned about looking cool and blowing it off and picking his crap up off the deck instead of making sure no bystanders were hurt. Pure moron that one.
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    That is the way of the Pirate. It is all about the image. :1drink
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  12. ®êšïš†ø®

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    :rofl

    Typical Virginia legal crap. It's like they want to keep the rules incredibly vague so nobody can understand them. Then everyone stays skeered that they might be breaking some little known, poorly worded law.... since there are zillions of them. Yay commonwealth!
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  13. niceviewbehindbars

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    I passed another VA state cop last night on my way home while standing up again.. That's twice in the last week. :huh I kept standing as I passed him and he obviously didn't seem to mind.
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  14. Truckin_Thumper

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    NC LEOs dont give a rats ass, unless you are doing more than just standing.
    Trust me on this :deal

    Speed and stand, or jump a ditch and go down the road while standing, or maybe jump a RR Xing and stand, yeah, yer gettin' a ticket :lol3
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  15. Sit

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    Just so someone reading this wont have to read all of the crap in Belgum Waffles' thread. His son was not cited for violating the Oregon code that deals with sitting on a bike, he was cited for careless. Yes, I think it was an improper charge, proper stop, but in the spirit of the law, the wrong code was used.

    As for other states etc, look it up on the web or stop by your state police office and ask them. If your state forbids it, just remember to use a reasonable argument if you go to court. Simply stating your bike is designed for it and you were in control does nothing to negate the issue of your butt not being on the seat. I would suspect you would have to do better than that. A Ferrari is street legal, can do zero to god knows what in a blink of an eye, but does not make it legal to actually do it. "But officer, my car was designed for this" won't get you any where.

    That all being said, ride safe and enjoy.
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  16. Furiousgeorge233

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    I had some friends that were pulled over in WI this weekend for standing on the pegs. Older group, no stunting, just stretching out. No tickets issued. I did a quick search and couldn't find the law that says it's illegal in WI but I did find a state sight that mentions twice to stand on the pegs when encountering railroad tracks and potholes.

    http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/vehicle/motorcycle/operation.htm

    My guess is this LEO was just using it as an excuse for a fishing expedition.
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  17. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    Yup, the old attitude check.


    Hell, you can find enough riders manuals, including the STATE manuals, that say to rise up on the pegs to cross an obstruction---"but occifer, it looked like a 4 x 4 in the lane!". They don't got a foot to stand on.
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  18. Seth S

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    Actually it is not legal to stand on the pegs on a motorcycle in Vermont. Or at least its worded such that you must be sitting:

    § 1114. Riding on motorcycles and mopeds
    (a) A person operating a motorcycle or moped shall ride only upon the permanent and regular seat attached thereto, and such operator shall not carry any other person nor shall any other person ride on a motorcycle or moped unless such motorcycle or moped is designed to carry more than one person, in which event a passenger may ride upon the permanent and regular seat if designed for two persons, or upon another seat firmly attached to the motorcycle or moped at the rear or side of the operator.

    (b) A person shall ride upon a motorcycle or moped only while sitting astride the seat, facing forward, with one leg on each side of the motorcycle or moped.

    (c) No person shall operate a motorcycle or moped while carrying any package, bundle, or other article which prevents him from keeping both hands on the handlebars.

    (d) No operator shall carry any person, nor shall any person ride, in a position that will interfere with the operation or control of the motorcycle or moped or the view of the operator. (Added 1971, No. 258 (Adj. Sess.), § 3, eff. March 1, 1973; amended 1977, No. 20, § 2.)


    http://www.leg.state.vt.us/statutes/fullsection.cfm?Title=23&Chapter=013&Section=01114
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  19. Eldon

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    Wow I never even thought of this as an issue. I stand up about 15% of my street ridding so i can stretch, see over traffic, or just for fun (I stand 90% of my offroad riding). Apparently its illegal in WA state. :huh I'll let you know when they start to enforce it in my town. :ricky
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  20. Scalpel 3000

    Scalpel 3000 Proficient Scootering

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    I just realized something that might solve this problem, at least for me: my scooter seat tilts forward to access the under-seat storage.

    All I have to do is leave it unlatched, and bungie cord the back lip of the seat to the back of my belt. When I stand up, the seat tilts up with me, and I remain seated while standing. Problem solved! :D
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