Legal to stand up while riding?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by niceviewbehindbars, May 27, 2010.

  1. Oldmessage

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    Wooh, I am soo lucky to live in a country without "speed limits" (at least on the Autobahn, laugh) and more relaxed cops. I have a driving license for Motorcycle now since 1978 and NEVER EVER one came by an even mentioned something about riding standing up. There is a law in Italy where you are not allowed to ride with one hand on the handle bar, but that is a different story.

    So if you like to ride "Standing Up" at any speed YOU want, come by and visit us here in Germany.
    TJ :clap
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  2. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    I will do. I am coming to Germany for the first time by bike in a few weeks time. PM me if you're around any time 25th-30th Sept and fancy showing a Welshman whose grasp of German consists of speaking in a garbled combination of Dutch and English, whilst adopting a comically bad German accent the sights. I'll be at Oktorberfest 25th-27th and at the 'ring 28th and 29th. I'll be with other Brits (seperate groups for each activity), but am up for meeting up with other Adv riders on route. :)
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  3. Gooch

    Gooch Been here awhile

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    Never been stopped under this law, though I'm not sure I've been observed RWS.
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  4. bumblebee14

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    KY does not prohibit standing directly. The only thing that would come close would be "Careless Driving" (a step below reckless), which states a person has to operate their vehicle with due regard for the safety of all persons and property on the roadway. So it would all depend on if you are acting safely. Again, it's usually pretty obvious when someone is just screwing around.
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  5. justscoutin

    justscoutin Been here awhile

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    I was standing up 2 weeks ago, and came over a rise as a car almost pulled out in front of me. if I had been sitting down they would've pulled out and I possibly would've KO'ed them in the side.
    I worry about getting pulled over for "stunting" but I'm still gonna do it cause you gotta stretch and air out from time to time.
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  6. wetdog1965

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    I stand up all the time on long rides. Gone by cops in many states and never had a problem. Did some checking and sure enough a few state don't allow this. I think it's on the books to stop the idiots from doing stunts/stupid shit. A lot of cops ride and understand you sometimes feel the need to get air...well you know where and you ass needs a brake once in awhile. I'll keep in mind the law in some states, but that won't stop me from standing once in awhile, I just pay attention who's around!
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  7. achtung3

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    I do not think there is a law against passing gas!


    :huh :huh
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  8. mjfields_228

    mjfields_228 Been here awhile

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    It is technically illegal in Florida to stand up while riding. I never knew this until yesterday when Trooper HathCOCK cited me for it while riding my GSA!!!

    I have been doing it all along and have even seen LEO's while I was doing it but never had an issue. In yesterdays case, I was rolling I-75 South in between Lake City and Gainesville. Doing about 75mph. There was no traffic in the immediate vicinity, sun was out, road was dry and ambient winds were nill. I only stand for for a brief time while at cruising altitude but will stand up for longer thru construction slow downs or accidents where shit is just crawling.

    I don't think I did a very good job trying to sell it to the Trooper. I did try explaining that the GSA is configured for safe operation both sitting and standing but I think he may have never ridden a motorcycle in his life--ever. His mother telling him; "The Motorcycles is EVIL--my precious baby son......" when he was growing up or something along those lines.

    $154 and 3 Points or.... $154, plus traffic school $$ and no points.

    Or try my luck with the judge!
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  9. joexr

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    What did he call it on the ticket?
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  10. sarhog

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    Please give me the Florida State Statute number that he cited you for (FSS 316.???).
    Thanks.
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  11. FirstPath

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    I have often wondered the same thing. It's not stunting and it's not reckless. Feels good just to stand and stretch and you still have perfect control of the bike. It's BS...

    I'd fight this one. It's a similar argument for getting pulled over for having a sidecar wheel in the air....but I could even see that as a bit reckless to the untrained eye.
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  12. JustinP

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    Kinda silly, because MSF and other safety training teach you to stand up for certain situations, i.e. straddling objects. I stand up all the time. If a cop ever pulls me over, I hope it will be obvious I wasn't stunting and they accept my reasoning that I was stretching or straddling an object.
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  13. O.C.F.RIDER

    O.C.F.RIDER Loose nut behind h/bars

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    You can be rest assured it's illegal in New Jerseystan.
    But so is just about everything else that may constitute fun in one way or another.

    CW
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  14. mjfields_228

    mjfields_228 Been here awhile

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    316.2085(2)

    (2) A person shall ride upon a motorcycle or moped only while sitting astride the seat, with both wheels on the ground at all times, facing forward, and with one leg on each side of the motorcycle or moped. However, it is not a violation of this subsection if the wheels of a motorcycle or moped lose contact with the ground briefly due to the condition of the road surface or other circumstances beyond the control of the operator.

    The citation was for "Improper Riding"

    WTF!!!!


    I should have told him that my seat sits "really high" will riding on the boring interstate and that may only seem as if I was standing, to the un-trained eye.
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  15. sarhog

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    Why were you standing? How long were you standing? What kind of road? How was the traffic? What was your speed?

    Unless you were obviously screwing around, I would take it to court. Dress nice, be polite, know what you're going to say. If you find references in any motorcycle safety literature talking about standing in certain instances, quote them.

    IMHO, that law was passed to combat "jackassery" on motorcycles. If you weren't being a jackass, I think you have a chance of proving your case.

    I go to court frequently, I've seen much worse behavior excused.

    I would not hire a lawyer in this case, as its not complicated at all.

    Good luck!:evil
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  16. mjfields_228

    mjfields_228 Been here awhile

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    I was standing because I was on slab at about hour 11 of nearly constant riding. Simply a quick minute or two to stretch. I was on a major interstate doing the speed limit of about 75mph. Traffic was sparse while I was doing it.

    Both hands on the grips. I installed ROX Risers to allow a very natural stance (no bending) so I can ride my GSA comfortable in both off and on road situations.

    The only thing discouraging me from taking it to court is the county I was cited in is 3 hours away from where I live. I would have to take an entire day off of work to roll the dice with the judge. I think it is very reasonable that I could get the charges dismissed, But then again if it goes south and the judge sides with the Trooper I worry about the whole thing that a fine of up to $500 can be imposed bla bla bla shit written on the back of ticket.

    But I am still thinking about it!!!

    My point of my original post was to let other riders in Florida be aware that the FHP is enforcing the fucked up law.
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  17. atomicalex

    atomicalex silly aluminum boxes

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    No idea if It is legal or not in germany, But I was so enthused from standing up on my now again running GS this weekend that I did by reflex on the CBR this morning!
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  18. concours

    concours WFO for 44 years

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    The "Indian Larry" scenario.
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  19. Pantah

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    I got pulled over in Cave Creek AZ. Let me go but lectured me. In Maine a patrol car going the other way caught me standing and turned on his lights. I rode a ways and pulled over while I could see in my mirror he was going to turn around. But he never showed. Must've got a call.

    I don't understand why this no standing law. Dual sport motorcycles designed for standing. Seems foolish.
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  20. Andyvh1959

    Andyvh1959 Cheesehead Klompen

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    No such law or statute that I know of in Wisconsin. If I need to stretch and air out the butt, while on my bike, I'll do it. Preferably not near an officer, but really it should not matter.

    I did search WI statutes for cycles and found it is illegal to ride side-saddle on a motorcycle.

    Once, a couple in my cycle club was riding HWY 55 in central Illinois, a wide open, four lane straight flat road. He had his left hand resting on her left knee for a while. Suddenly a booming voice anounced "BOTH hands on the handlebar!" This repeated again, and Dick noticed a cop car behind him. The trooper was bellowing out the command on the car PA system. Guess he had nothing better to do than stare at more corn.
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