Lehigh Valley/Pocono Mts

Discussion in 'Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carp' started by RickB1975, Apr 20, 2015.

  1. dollar99

    dollar99 UnMuted

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    I think it's only an issue if you pull the straps down too Far and fork oil pressurizes at seal
  2. tulalabuilt

    tulalabuilt Long timer

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    i use the polisport version of it . got a couple,
  3. tulalabuilt

    tulalabuilt Long timer

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    and gasgas.

    they all really sweet till you break something , or till u need aftermarket parts or till you need parts to rebuilt the engine . thats when all the sweet turns to sour .
  4. Tammy

    Tammy Team 2nd Wind

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    I do too you pussy I mean dick
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  5. 2Strokecylce

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    @Matt_Mc Dollar wins the prize for Physics is Phun competition.

    All hydraulic suspensions have an airspace designed into them to allow for the collapsing volume of space when the suspension is being compressed. Being as oil is not compressible and air is, designers use the compression of the air to create space for the oil. Once the suspension is starting to compress the air inside becomes pressurized and starts to push back against the oil. Once the air is compressed to a point that it can over come the air/mechanical joint between the fork legs and seals the oil starts to flow out of the seal areas. Now lets add into the fact many of us screw around and add more oil into the forks to compensate for bad technique and the incorrect spring rates, rebound and dampening we decrease the amount of compression the forks can actually accomplish (less fork travel) and cause this failure mode to occur even quicker when we ratchet the piss out of them to tie them down and then start hitting bumps in the road to add more forces going through the system. This is the dumbed down version because I am on the clock and cannot get into math mode while on the clock.
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  6. Doc.C

    Doc.C Long timer

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    So as long as you don't ratchet the shit out of it- your ok? That's what I was all ways told - just ratchet enough to keep it tight but dont over do.
  7. 2Strokecylce

    2Strokecylce RX3, Vulcan, KLX

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    THANK YOU!!!

    Cam buckle straps are OK for initial tie down. But HD Ratchet straps are the only sure thing.[/QUOTE]



    The webbing material is key to if they slip or not when wet. The older ones with straps made of natural fibres slip easily when wet but the cheap plastic ones do not because the water absorption of the cheapest plastics is almost zero. I use cam straps at times but I also have only enough extra length to tie off the strap so that if the cam lets go the bike is still OK because of the tie off. I also run straps that are rated not to stretch for at least double the load weight per strap.
  8. 2Strokecylce

    2Strokecylce RX3, Vulcan, KLX

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    Exactly. The guys that have the wooden blocks and the plastic devices like $ posted just have insurance policies to make sure they do not ratchet the shit out of them. When I trailer a bike I tie the front end off in such a way to keep my tie points above the axle of the front wheel and on on the highest point on the bike to preferably have the straps above the neck bearings. This bit of physics cause a slight pressure increase on the neck bearings to lock them and cause the bike to be more rigid and move less.
  9. Moose1050

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    i been using a similar one. 70% of the time its on the floor of the trailer by the time i get to my destination.
  10. mrxinpa

    mrxinpa Just Get Out and Ride !!!

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    You ain't doing it right then!!!
  11. eddie bolted

    eddie bolted BOING!!!

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  12. Doc.C

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    Yea- but you got your panties in a bind about god knows what and went MIA for 6 weeks - WTF!
  13. mrxinpa

    mrxinpa Just Get Out and Ride !!!

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    So again back to my original statement that Matt called BS..

    if you Ratchet the shit outta your front end you may cause damage and blow your fork seals! As dear old Dad used to say. "Some people are Born stupid and lose ground their whole life".

    My point... Don't be stupid! Tie your bikes down properly and we won't Be having these conversations!!
  14. Richard S Pelkowski

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    Oh my good lord help us... And what the heck do they have you doing on those natural gas pipelines again?
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  15. RickB1975

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    I hope you don’t leave the side stand down when your hauling that thing. That’s not a good practice.

    Yes, that’ll keep the pressure off your fork seals.
  16. mslow

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    Funny story, I had two sport bikes in the back of an enclosed trailer for a trip to Deal's Gap.
    On the way down we hit some nasty transfer sections crossing bridges that had the trailer literally bouncing in the air.
    Like a ass, I didn't stop to check the bikes.
    Drove the rest of the way down, including the entire length of the Dragon (318 turns in 11 miles).
    Went to unload the trailer and all the ratchet straps had come unhooked, two on the front and two on the rear.
    Bikes were still standing perfectly thanks to two Baxley chocks that lock in the front wheel.

    Point is, you can argue all day about what straps work, what straps don't, but the best way to secure your bike is to lock down the front wheel into a chock, by locking down the footpegs or through the rear axle.
    That being said, I use cambuckle straps for all my bikes and have only had an issue with the higher end ones that slipped to where I knot the strap when they got wet.
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  17. Richard S Pelkowski

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    On the way down we hit some nasty transfer sections crossing bridges that had the trailer literally bouncing in the air.

    That is correct... You hit the road and figure it's just an easy trip over to Grandma's house. Then you hit some section of roadway that's like the BQE southbound by Tillary st. and your cam buckle straps are.... well of marginal utility. And with open hooks... Oh baby we got a problem...

    All three of the truckers on this thread are probably laughing their butts off following this discussion. If they get it wrong it means lost wages, accident or even death...
  18. mrxinpa

    mrxinpa Just Get Out and Ride !!!

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    Ya and I've seen my share of dumb ass truck drivers tooling down the interstate with straps swinging in the wind! Tarps flapping around, chain binders snapped doing absofuckenlutely nothing to secure their load!

    My point is... when it comes to my shit I tie it down how I want and if it comes lose it's on me and me alone!

    You guys busting Docs chops over having 20 straps and the type of straps should all just STFU and let the man do whatever he feels is an acceptable risk to him and his shit!
  19. sperduton

    sperduton Been here awhile

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    I guess I'm the odd man out. I absolutely hate the ratchet straps cause they are a pain in the ass on a bike with long travel.
    When I do use straps on the front of my bike I don't use a block between the wheel and fork. I never have and I've been hauling my bikes for a long time. I'll throw the last wrench into the discussion. My favorite way to transport and what I've been doing the last 10+ years is an atk bike shoe to lock the front wheel in place and a couple cam buckle straps on the back. quick, easy and painless to load. Roll the bike into the shoe, lock the shoe and the bike stands there all by itself. No walking around to try and hold it up while strapping it.
  20. tulalabuilt

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    Put rotella in your forks and you wont have any problems