Lets talk about speeding tickets

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Colorado_Rider, May 29, 2013.

  1. Colorado_Rider

    Colorado_Rider Banned

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    I haven't had one in 20 years and only pulled over once on a bike in 80K+ miles of riding. I'm sick of constantly worrying about getting pulled over and I only speed then there are coners around anyway. It's ruined my freedom while riding for long enough.

    What are the consequences? Insurance? Points? How often can you get them? Fines don't really bother me, it's the long term effects that concern me. What about out of state tickets? Does your car insurance rise with our bike insurance?
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  2. the_sandman_454

    the_sandman_454 Been here awhile

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    Just forget about speeding now, it's too late, you just screwed yourself by posting your history without them. This tempts the powers that be in the universe to "correct" that by always making sure there will be a cop around just when you'd really rather not see one. :cry :huh
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  3. Colorado_Rider

    Colorado_Rider Banned

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    Whatever...I'm been bragging about not getting tickets for the past 10 years. The key is to only speed in the corners.
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  4. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Well, for one it helps to ride in areas without a lot of cops. :D That being said, I've had over 120 moving violations in my life, most of which are speeding tickets, and more then half were in cars/trucks.

    I never considered them much of anything but a speeding tax that I was willing to pay, and usually they give you some hoops to jump through to keep them off your record so your insurance doesn't go through the roof..

    The problem is that in the last 10 years, the price of tickets has really sky rocketed. My last speeding ticket I got in TX just before I moved was for 15 over and it cost me $280! :eek1 The last ticket I got was for 10 over here in AR and it was something like $175. Still not cheap considering I got nailed doing 65 in a 55.

    I still speed almost always on the bikes, but I have slowed down in the cage. I rarely go much more then 5 over in my truck. :D
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  5. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    Ride where there aren't any speed limits?

    :dunno

    a local race track perhaps? Or a lot of places have this stuff called "dirt"

    also, the constant cat and mouse is fun. They are always looking for you - you're always looking for them. When you get back from a long days' ride you feel like you had the chance to get away with something....

    Now! More riding, less worrying
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  6. Conedodger

    Conedodger Wanna Ride

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    I average a ticket about every 5 years. So far, none have impacted my insurance. The insurance company has to pay to pull your record from the state and if you are in good standing with them, they won't spend the money. I've had luck with out of state tickets by paying them immediately. If you don't piss 'em off, sometimes they won't report the ticket to your home state.
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  7. MotorradMike

    MotorradMike MIL-TFD-41

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    I think you've already got it figured out.
    You're speeding smart.
    Never in town, or school zones, or way faster than traffic on the slab all come to mind.
    I seem to have stopped attracting the attention of LEO's, I think the BMW and ATGATT help a lot.
    Once I pulled up to a RIDE program and the LEO waved me through.

    RIDE = Reduce Impaired Driving Everywhere.
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  8. Capt Crash

    Capt Crash Benevolent Despot

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    Clearly you've not ridden a properly geared motorcycle.
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  9. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Yep, speed smart. You know the good places to speed -- so do the cops. So go do it somewhere else.
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  10. bwringer

    bwringer Gimpy, Yet Alacritous

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    This is one of the main advantages of dual-sport riding... no cops way out in the boonies! :D
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  11. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Unless you are unlucky enough to get nabbed by forest service law enforcement cops.
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  12. Wraith Rider

    Wraith Rider Banned

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    Your insurance goes up with tickets? Holy crap that sucks.

    Most of our automated speed traps don't get motorcycles 'cause they only take a photo from your front and even if the police has to prove you have been riding, what's a bit a problem with a full face helmet.

    However, once I was stopped with ~20mph over and lost my licence for a month.
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  13. windmill

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    There are times and places you can take liberties, there are times and places you can't.
    Put on your "big boy pants" like the rest of the world, and get over it, or go to the track.

    I truly pity someone whose interest in riding is so one dimensional they can't find any joy in it without going fast all the time.
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  16. Jimmy the Heater

    Jimmy the Heater Dirt Farmer

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    I used to work for a pretty big insurance company and what I can tell you is that every company is different.

    Some automatically run reports every 6 months, some only when you sign up or have a claim.

    With my former employers, only in state tickets came up through the dmv. As long as you pay the out of state ticket and it doesn't go on your credit report, we would never know.

    In state tickets tho, if you received more than 2 moving violations for speed in 5 years the policy would cancel. Rate increases for each ticket as well.

    This was the company with the red umbrella.
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  17. Squarehead

    Squarehead Crazed Lunatic

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    What is the general opinion. Will wearing ATTGATT lessen the probability of getting a ticket

    This comparison would be your average BMW rider compared to that average Harley rider going the same amount over the speed limit.:deal
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  18. Rick G

    Rick G Ranger Rick

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    The last time I looked into the matter of out of state tickets I learned that since 9/11 the federal govt has pushed states to forward all moving violations to the home state in an effort to track unsavory types. States that don't comply (and there are only a few the last time I checked) risk losing Federal highway money.

    However in the real world, I suppose it depends if an out of state ticket goes back to your home state. I recieved an illegal pass ticket in Oregon a couple of years back, but I paid it promptly and wrote a nice letter along with the payment and it never showed up back in OH.

    As for local tickets, here in OH speed traps are a way of life with every community using it for revenue enhancement. Though I try to be smart as to where I push the limits, I have been nailed (mostly due to not paying attention) 4 times on the bike and once in the car since moving here in 2006. Each time I was able to get the ticket reduced to a "equipment failure" such as a broken tail light or headlight. I have only had to appear twice, the other times it was taken care of through a friendly phone call to the DA's office. Once they run your license and see that you are not a deadbeat, they have offered the reduced charge without much if any resistance. As for the money part, the fine for reduced charge always seems to equal the fine for the original speeding ticket. Funny how that works. IMHO as long as these communities that sponsor the traps get their money, they really don't care what the charge is. None of those tickets have affected my insurance rates.....yet. Fingers crossed!

    I just consider it a payment to the Troll under the bridge that you pay for safe passage.

    Rick G

    PS Tell me again that these speed traps are about safety and not anything to do about MONEY!!!!
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  19. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    I don't think HDs get many tickets either and probably aren't a good comparison point -- too much "pride and patriotism" and that crap going on, and most cops who ride tend to ride HDs, whether it's AT work or their own bike.

    I do think ATGATT makes a difference. I think cops are tired of seeing squids get smeared on the pavement and appreciate somebody who dresses for the crash. So a better comparison would be if you got pulled over on your Beemer fully geared up versus some kid wearing nothing but a helmet on an R6.
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  20. Colorado_Rider

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    Thanks for the responses (except the dickhead ones) I've had very good luck going 0-5 over where the cops hang out and have no problem doing so because there's no fun in speeding around town anyway. I also rarely do more than 25 over up in the mountain but I would have more fun if I could just relax and think about the joys of riding rather than the consequences of getting a ticket.

    To be specific, I'm wondering about out of state CA tickets and I have Progressive. Funny how someone mentioned states that don't report out of state tickets lose their funding...California has done everything possible to go bankrupt lately (like driving out the porn industry) so I wouldn't be surprised if they did report them lol.
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