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Discussion in 'Vendors' started by REV'IT!, Apr 30, 2014.

  1. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Long timer

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    Just ordered a pair of the Sand 2 pants and will be picking up the jacket this weekend (after one last fit check).

    Can you tell me if the HiVis vest interferes with the attachment points for the neck brace (or vice/versa)?

    Also, as a suggestion - I'd like to see another pair of warm weather pants, either well vented or mesh, that are in some way waterproof as well in the 'mid level' price point. These would either be something like the Sand 2, but with larger / better venting like the large vents on the Poseidon pants, or something like the Tornado pants but without the insulation in the liner (just the waterproof layer). Now that I think about it, I would buy a pair of Tornado pants in a heartbeat as well if the Hydratex liner from the Sand 2 could be used in place of the Tornado's insulated liner?
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  2. SamRus

    SamRus Been here awhile

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    Hey Rev'It!

    I've had your mesh Airwave pants and have been wearing them daily during summer seasons since March 2012 until now, for good 5 months each year. They are great pants with great protection, and flow air very well.

    My only gripe is that the fabric is uncomfortable against the skin when it's hot out, so I have to wear some sort of under-pants, which cuts down on airflow, and negates the whole purpose of hot-weather mesh pants. My suggestion would be to use some sort of wicking "dry fit" fabric (like underarmor, or nike dry fit) that's used in athletic clothing. That would make these pants absolute best in the world!

    Also, thanks for the great products you guys make!
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  3. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Long timer

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    Ok, what does that mean? Is Tryonic no longer going to be the manufacturer of the armor upgrades?

    I just received my Sand 2 pants, purchased via MotorcycleGear.com and, I suspect based on the tracking info, shipped direct from the Rev'It warehouse in/near NYC. After about an hour of trying to insert the Tryonic Seesoft hip pads, I went to the 'net and found a note on Revzilla's site that there was a change to the '2014' version of some Rev'It pants (link), and only those pants that have the Tryonic label will fit these hip pads. The pants I received do not have this label. I should note that some vendors are including notes that Rev'It no longer includes the foam pads, but my pants did come with them. So, do I have the 'new' style or the 'old'? I don't really care if I have the old or new, but I do want to be able to upgrade to something better than the included foam hip pads, and something that fits the armor pockets properly. Revzilla's suggestion for the SAS-TEC hip protectors in the link above is off, too, as those are a completely different shape from either the foam pads included with the pants or the Seesoft Type B RV01 pads which are supposed to be the matching size for these pants.

    So, do I exchange the pants in hopes of getting another pair with the Tryonic label? Or do I return the now useless Tryonic hip pads because there's a 'new' armor that will be available soon that fits the pockets on these (and other?) Rev'It pants? Am I going to have the same problem finding an upgraded back protector for the Sand 2 jacket?
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  4. REV'IT!

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    Hey SamRus, it's our pleasure to make great products -- thanks to you for buying them! I've sent a message to our product team about the fabric in the Airwave; they're always looking for good feedback. May I ask, what sort of base layer are you wearing underneath? We do make a summer layer that breathes quite well, if you're looking for something new. It's called the Oxygen, you can find it here. We'll let you know if we hear anything new about the mesh material in the Airwave!


    Hi lmychajluk. We took a look into your case; since the pants were just ordered, they should have been the model prepared for the TRYONIC SeeSoft hip protector. I think by now MotorcycleGear.com should have contacted you regarding a replacement -- if not, let us know right away and we'll get on it!


    As for vest, I just put it on a Sand 2 Jacket we have in our showroom to test it out. Depending on the size of your jacket, the HV vest may overlap the neck brace straps a bit, but it does not affect functionality -- they both co-exist happily.

    Ride safe,
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  5. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Long timer

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    Thanks for the info on the HiVis vest.

    As for the pants, I was contacted by MotorcycleGear.com and they made arrangements to replace the pants. They're always great, and knew they'd step up. But I'm still a little curious as to this 'new' armor manufacturer, especially given Rev'It's initiative to meet current EU standards. Will the new manufacturer be producing an identical item to the current Tryonic Seesoft armor? Will the armor now be included with Rev'It garments where previously only the foam inserts were provided?
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  6. REV'IT!

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    Hey Lee. Not to worry, the product won't change, just the factory where it's produced -- it will be certainly meet the same standards. Starting with our 2014 models, the armor will be an optional add-on feature; this way, we can keep costs lower for those whose riding purposes might not necessarily call for the upgraded armor.

    Hope you enjoy the pants!

    Take care,
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  7. marty_uiuc

    marty_uiuc moran

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    For the past few years I've been using two Rev'it jackets, both long discontinued but still working just fine. I use an Airforce in the summer time and a Dragon the rest of the time. Both have great quality and never given me trouble, although I am glad to see that the branding on the newer jackets has been toned down since mine were made.

    I personally like the more European fit, as it is not as boxy/baggy feeling as most of the other brands.

    A couple things that would make the jackets better than they already are would be two-way zippers for the main zip on the 3/4 and full length jackets, and either a card holder on the left sleeve or some kind of chest pocket for very easy access to things like IDs and credit cards.
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  8. REV'IT!

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    Thanks, Marty! We'll pass on those thoughts to the design team!
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  9. ChildlikeWonder

    ChildlikeWonder Been here awhile

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    First, I have gotten nothing but exceptionally good service through Revzilla and REV'IT. I have Tornado jacket/pants, Airwave pants, and Sand 2 jacket/pants. Until recently, I wore the Sand 2 every day since the end of last August. I haven't had any problems with the velcro that another person mentioned, other than a thread coming out that holds it to the jacket, but that's easily fixed.

    Hydratex works great, and from everything I've read about other brands of non-Gore waterproofing, it's the only one I trust.

    Please don't change the European sizing. There are plenty of brands for overweight people, but very few for those of us who are not overweight. I saw someone saying they have a 42 chest and wears a XXXL Sand 2 jacket that they find a bit tight, and I have no idea how this can be as I have a 41" chest and my size L Sand 2 jacket is the right size for me. A lot of brands leave a baggy butt on someone like me which gets very uncomfortable after 2 hours, so I'm glad to own REV'IT.

    Also, I hope the 3 liner system continues. I love being able to put my rain liner in without my thermal liner, I love being able to put the thermal in without the rain, and I love being able to ride with no liners at all. The Tornado was my first set of motorcycle gear, and it taught me that a combined layer is not desirable.

    It would be great if knee armor were more adjustable up and down, and if there were some way to cinch the leg in the area of the armor to make the armor fit more tightly. It would also be great to see polyester go away. I understand and appreciate the REV'IT approach of not just making gear that fits and feels like a heavy burlap sack and saying "there, that's safe," but polyester shreds so quickly.

    Finally, I wish the gloves had longer palms. To get the wrist straps to land in the right place, I would need a XXXL, but to get everything else to fit right I need an XL. The means I have to buy all my gloves from Alpinestars or Held. That said, I must be a small minority of customer given that all other brands present this problem to me.
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  10. wizze

    wizze Wizze = Wise

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    Hey Rev'it

    I have the silver/blue Sand 2 jacket that replaced my original Sand jacket. Many nice upgrades/fixes. I wish the original's collar clip back hook would have made it to the Sand 2. I miss hooking the collar tab back when it's warmer so I fold it inside which is just leaving a dirty mark on the collar. Also, the fit in the shoulder/armpit area is fine with no liners but with all liners installed, the armpit area is tighter than my original Sand. I'm not ripped by any means either. :gdog A little more generous cut in this area would be nicer.

    I like the Euro fit and and different liners to flow with the conditions. Like ChildlikeWonder says not every American is a fat ass. Thanks for a great product and listening to our critiques.
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  11. easy_rider_77

    easy_rider_77 Been here awhile

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    Any word on the below query?

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  12. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Long timer

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    I just got my Sand 2 jacket last night. At the last minute, I ended up going up a size to the XXL for that exact same reason. I could've easily lived with the XL, but when I crossed my arms in front of me, it pulled really tight in the armpits. I, too, am average size otherwise (normally wear a 44 jacket).

    Question - are the loops on the front of your jacket red? I got the same color and was expecting them to be red based on the pics, but when I got the jacket they were black. Not a major issue, but I think the red added a nice little accent, along with the red in the collar. I also have the Moveo neck brace on order, so once attached it's probably a moot point anyway.

    Any update on the Seesoft armor availability? I'm signing up for the AltRider event the last weekend of June and it would be nice to have it by that weekend.
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  13. midemite

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    I recently bought a Tornado jacket from Revzilla. I love this jacket! Great fit, styling, and well made. Ventilation is super! No so impressed with the liner. I don't understand why the waterproof layer is always a liner. In a recent rain storm I was wet before I got the jacket off, liner on and jacket back on. After the rain storm I had a wet jacket. I had considered the Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket which has the waterproof layer on the outside but quality and style were not nearly as nice as Rev'it. I will definitely use a rain shell in the future rather than the rev'it liner. For cooler weather I'll probably use a fleece or my heated gear rather that the liner that came with the jacket. Be nice if the liner was optional when buying the jacket.

    I'd also like to see all ladies pants come in shorter lengths like the men's pants. Would love to have a pair of Tornado pants but they're really too long.

    Overall, thanks for a great product line!
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  14. REV'IT!

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    Hey ChildLikeWonder, thanks for sharing your thoughts. We certainly have no intentions of getting rid of the European sizing -- it's one of our most appreciated features. With our jeans line, we're introducing some more relaxed fits this fall, but that will be in addition to and not in place of the current line. We understand there's a huge hole in the US market on nicely tailored riding gear, and we'll continue our sizing accordingly.

    We're also expanding the way we approach liners. You'll see some improvements in the coming year or so, but the flexibility of choosing whichever layers you need at the time won't change.

    As for your thoughts on materials, we like to remind consumers that not all polyesters are created equal. The chosen materials for each product are the result of extensive in-house research and testing, and there are definitely polyesters fit for the job: The Chonos GTX jacket, for example, uses polyester in a RIB construction that results in great pull strength as well as cut, tear and abrasion resistance. If you've never had the uh, "pleasure" of doing a real-world abrasion resistance test on one of our products, I can share my own results: I slid quite a way in an Airwave Ladies' and the material (a combination of Lorica, high density polyester 600D, PWR shell mesh and polyester rib) held. Not a scrape on me. (Bruises, on the other hand...) Pretty amazing results for a jacket that's less than $200.

    We'll pass on your thoughts on knee armor. Thanks for letting us know!


    Thanks, Wizze! We'll definitely pass along your input on the Sand 2.


    Hey easy_rider -- sorry about that! As of right now, there are no plans to release GORE-TEX boots. We're getting excellent feedback on our urban boots collection, and will likely continue to develop that segment in the immediate future. Maybe sometime further down the road!

    Ride safe,
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  15. REV'IT!

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    Hey lmychajluk, way to pay attention to details! The loops on the Sand 2 changed from red to black in the later production runs. They ran out of red paint in Holland. ;)

    We're looking at the 3rd week in July right now on the Seesoft armor, so it won't be here for your event. We'll let you know if anything changes with that ETA.


    Hi Midemite. The liners are one of our most commented on features; many people love them -- I would guess these are the ones diligent about tracking the weather, and who put the liners in before the rain starts -- and others of us are constantly getting wet trying to get them in. It's mostly personal preference. As for your comment about the liners being optional... We're updating the way we approach layers in the near future. Keep your eyes peeled in spring/summer 2015 ;)

    On the length issue, as you may know, REV’IT! is still a relatively small company, and as such, we have to make certain business decisions to keep our margins healthy. Right now, there is not enough demand for all the women's pants in short. It’s always helpful to have good consumer feedback though, and we’ll pass on your comments to the appropriate channels!

    Ride safe,
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  16. REV'IT!

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    For those of you who are in the tri-state area, please join us on June 28 at our showroom in Red Hook, Brooklyn for food, drinks and PRIZES!

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  17. Wise Guy

    Wise Guy Soitenly!

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    Just picked up the men's Airwave jacket. Love it. Flows a ton of air.

    Really disappointed though when I went to buy the matching Airwave pant in a men's size medium short. I contacted a dozen or so retailers, on both sides of the Atlantic, and no one has them, and no one knows when to expect them. :cry

    Questions:

    1. Can you point me to any dealer/retailer that might have a pair? (prefer silver, but would take black at this point)
    2. Are these pants being phased out/replaced with something for 2015, or should I expect to see a restocking to retailers this summer?
    3. Any ETA on these hitting the shelves again?

    Thanks in advance!
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  18. REV'IT!

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    Hey WiseGuy -- You're correct. The Airwave have been extremely popular this year, and our stock took a huge hit. We're expecting more sometime late July or early August (and that, of course, is assuming no problems with customs, etc.). Unfortunately, we have no way of seeing what dealers still do or do not have them in stock; your best bet is probably to just wait this one out!

    Ride safe,
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  19. BruceWA

    BruceWA Been here awhile

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    Hi there Rev'it. Am on a 3 week trip in the western US and have noted that the Hi Viz vest I bought for my Poseidon gear will stick to the velcro and it is shredding it, perhaps you might consider some additional securing points on these in the future to eliminate this problem? It will not hold up long with out some modification.

    Cheers,

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  20. Wise Guy

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    Thanks for the update. Will do.

    Another question: Your Tornado, or Gear 2 pants could work, but i don't think they come in a size small enough for me. Some retailers (like Revzilla) show a chart with size 48 short, which would work, but when you try to buy, none seem to show the Gear 2 or Tornado in anything smaller than a 50 short. I'm assuming the chart I'm seeing is a general chart for all pants, and Rev'it has just chosen not to produce the Gear 2 or the Tornado in the size 48 short?

    Thanks.
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