List of ADV Motorcycles with available Hacks

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by EASiRider, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. EASiRider

    EASiRider Trying to figure it all out, just like you are.

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    So, I am new to the side hack thing. Searching around you get a feel for a few of the more common side car setups, Ural etc.

    Is there a thread in here with a list of classic motorcycles that are available with side cars? I am totally new to side cars, I am very interested after watching a ton of Ural Youtube videos. I am wondering what some other good options are other than Ural. I know I can use the search button, and I have. But I only have so much time, and some of these threads are really long winded. So maybe a condensed overview, run down shake down ya know? Thanks for any help.
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  2. eastbloc

    eastbloc comprador bourgeois

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    Pretty much everything and nothing.

    Everything, because you can hang a chair off any bike with persistence, creativity, and money.

    Nothing, because no one ships a sidecar ADV type rig from the factory other than Ural.
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  3. EASiRider

    EASiRider Trying to figure it all out, just like you are.

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    So are older military side car hacks very hard and expensive to get your hands on?
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  4. eastbloc

    eastbloc comprador bourgeois

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    If you mean BMW or Zundapp, yes — they’re collector’s items, antiques and extremely rare.

    Soviet military bikes are available for reasonable prices and generally comparable to older Urals in terms of performance and reliability. Same with Chinese (CJ) which are of the same lineage.

    Most countries didn’t use sidecars post WW2 as they were replaced by 4x4s of various types.
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  5. EASiRider

    EASiRider Trying to figure it all out, just like you are.

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    Thanks for the info.

    So....Ural.....I am for sure attracted to the look, utility, and the fact I could bring my wife, or one of the boys along for a trip. Price for a new one is CRAZY. I'd like to go buy a brand new Gear Up Sahara....but dang...that price tag...oh my geezus. Are they at least bullet proof? Are they fussy? Finicky? What do I get for such a high cost other than the tough look and utility? Are they that pricey due to import taxes on Russian goods? Darn you Trump, why does he have to go start stuff with Russia eh?
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  6. eastbloc

    eastbloc comprador bourgeois

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    Buy a used one that is well sorted. You should be able to get into the hobby for $5k and if it isn’t for you, you won’t get taken to the cleaners on resale.

    Urals are designed for serviceability above reliability. They’re not bulletproof, but they are eminently repairable and designed to outlast the owner when properly maintained.

    Go to http://sovietsteeds.com for answers to all your questions and look at the used bikes for sale in the Black Market section there.
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  7. EASiRider

    EASiRider Trying to figure it all out, just like you are.

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    Hey brother, thanks for the quick replies and all the information. I can definitely do $5k. I'll check it out.
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  8. jaydmc

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    What many people do is buy a bike local to us, we build it into what ever they want then they either have us ship it or come pick it up. We have build some where around 1400 dual sport type sidecars.
    Attached is a photo of my last bike.
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    866-638-1793 DSCN1780.JPG
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  9. EASiRider

    EASiRider Trying to figure it all out, just like you are.

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    Jay, that's a sweet ride there. I have owned KLR's and DR's and have considered adding a sidecar. I think I need to get into the side car thing slowly first. Your service seems like something for a guy who knows for sure side cars are his thing. I'll keep you in the back of my head in case I need something. Thanks!!!
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  10. Strong Bad

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    Buy a used 07 or newer Ural, to see if piloting a sidecar really is a match for you. You can always sell it and "up grade" to a money pit for comfort and speed later if it is your thing.
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  11. EASiRider

    EASiRider Trying to figure it all out, just like you are.

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    Okay. I am seeing 2006 and newer, and now you are saying 2007 or newer. Can I please ask for a little clarity on the year changes between the two? Thanks
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  12. eastbloc

    eastbloc comprador bourgeois

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    Here is a list of changes by model year.

    http://www.crawfordsales.info/?page_id=54

    In my opinion there is not any “cut off”. The condition of the bike and mindset of the previous owner is more important than the model year.
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    eastbloc comprador bourgeois

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    For what it’s worth I presently have a 2000 and a 2014. Over the last 18 years I’ve had models ranging from ‘95 to ‘06, so I’ve had my share of experiences.
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  14. T-Bear

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    I LOVE my 2008 Ural Gear Up.

    BUT - be forewarned, as I was, that you better like to tinker and expect issues. I've had my share.

    Otherwise, I LOVE it and will never sell it. Perfect for my style of riding in the hills and hollars of the Ozark foothills. My two dogs love it more than me (50# and 60#). It is literally a tractor.

    Good advice on a well sorted out 2008+ carb Ural. Most major issues will have shown. And you can more than likely get your money back if it is not for you. Nothing else looks or feels like an offroad Ural. Good or bad depending on your personality. Ha.

    ETA - IF you do single road off-road remote roads like I experience here - the MECHANICAL REVERSE is worth it's weight in gold. I cannot remember how many times that reverse gear has gotten me out of trouble on a VERY narrow road where turning around was impossible. Especially when there is NO way I could have gotten out and pushed/turned it around. Priceless. Seriously.
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  15. JustKip

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    They require more routine maintenance than most other bikes. They are definitely not a gas and go Japanese bike.

    As for year, they started making noteworthy improvements in build quality in '07. As for the price, and import taxes (let's not get political here) prices started going up when they started outsourcing parts in '07. New ones, with EFI (big improvement in performance) disc brakes, Bosch gears, Ducati ignition, the list goes on...and they're still pretty fiddly.
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  16. jaydmc

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    Another inexpensive way to see if you like dual sport sidecars, pick up a used (or even new) KLR 650, buy one of our Sputnik sidecars which come with all of the needed hardware for $3495. You will be into it not much different money wise then a used Ural.
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  17. EASiRider

    EASiRider Trying to figure it all out, just like you are.

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    They call me Raygyver around these parts. So, yeah I like to tinker.
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  18. EASiRider

    EASiRider Trying to figure it all out, just like you are.

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    I see your point...but then I am riding around a KLR with a hack. If I am going to spend the same money...I want the awesomeness factor of the Ural. I've had plenty of KLR action. Time to move onto something different. If I ever have a GS bike, I might do your side hack in the above post. That does look pretty sweet. Thanks
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  20. JustKip

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    +1 on Soviet Steeds

    and if you're a real life McGuyver type, and want a Ural, there's really no reason not to get a well sorted used one.
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