List of LEGAL places to ride untagged?

Discussion in 'The Sandbox - AKA Flatistan' started by ex250mike, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. ex250mike

    ex250mike Been here awhile

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    I'm considering buying a cheap trail bike and making 3-4 trips to Georgia each year. I'm wondering if I would get much use out of it here in FL also.

    I know there are some halfassed trails in ONF and there is croom (never been there.) What else is available? I don't care for moto-x tracks, just trails.
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  2. PFSGATORS

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    You just go on believing that the trails in ONF are "half assed" and I will keep riding the sing track there by myself!

    I would also suggest River City Dirt Riders- The have plenty of half assed trails on their lease-
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  4. brewmann

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    Half ass ?? What ?? There are business parks and industrial complexes all over the area that need to be explored for the first time and have single track cut.... :rofl

    There's also PASCO....
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  6. Dr.Z

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    Croom is worth going to if you don't live too far away. Lots of single track & hill climbs if that's what you're after. Yearly permit is $60. 1 day pass is $15. This permit is also good for Tate's Hell ORV area on the SE end of the Apalachicola National Forest. There's also quite a few OHV areas in the NE part of Apalachicola NF near Silver Lake.

    Croom has a campground with showers and full hookups. I think the campsites are $20-25/night. More info here.


    If you're looking to ride private land, check out Florida Trail Riders. Lots of events (harescrambles, enduros, & MX). There's a few FEES involved with that sort of chuckleheadery though. :evil
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  7. DirtMedic

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    To those of you that ride Croom, I am a Hernando County Firefighter/ Paramedic and Croom Motocycle Area is in my first response zone. I have some advice to help you stay a little safer there and it probably applies to other places as well.

    First, it is much better to ride there on a weekday with less of a crowd. Weekend and holiday injuries are much more common.

    Second, is to pay attention for cross traffic. The problem with Croom is that there is no direction of travel. The entire park is a free for all. It is not uncommon to have someone flying down a trail concentrating on what they are doing while someone else comes at that same trail from a perpendicular direction also concentrating on their trail with both riders at a high rate of speed and neither of them looking for cross traffic. The resulting collision is a frequent scenario we see.

    Also, please DO NOT RIDE THERE WITHOUT YOUR CELL PHONE!!!! You need to have the ability to call for help should an injury occur. Cell service is fairly reliable at Croom. Hoping for someone to find you can be a miserable experience and possibly life or limb threatening. A GPS would be helpful as well. We have a handheld GPS so if you can give 911 dispatch your coordinates, we will find you that much faster. If nothing else, at least be able to tell 911 dispatch what part of the park you think you are in such as first day use area, second day use area, on the east or west side of the main road, etc. It is also best to ride with at least one other buddy. Stick together. Two other friends for a total of three in your group would be optimal. One can stay with the injured party while the other guides us back to the location. Our typical incident from the time you place a 911 call to the time we get you in an ambulance is between thirty minutes to an hour depending on where you are. We have had incidents take upwards of two hours due to not being able to locate the patient. Care will begin when we make contact with you. Our jump bags, EKG monitor, meds, back board, and other equipment goes with us as we search for you.

    Lastly, just because your bike or quad can, doesn't mean you should. Some of you ride wickedly powerful machines. Ride your skill level, not what your machine is capable of.

    We routinely have trauma alerts and other serious injuries come out of that park. I am NOT saying don't go to Croom. It is a great place to have fun and enjoy your sport with family and friends, just don't leave common sense at home. Most folks wear the appropriate gear which is good to see. It does work and it saves a lot of injuries or at least reduces injuries from what they could have been. There have been fatalities there, fortunately those are extremely rare. A few examples of recent calls we have had there are: a rider with a completely severed spine from jumping a sand berm at the front of the park and landing by going over the front of his handle bars (he will never walk again or feel and use anything below his navel), another rider took a turn too fast, collided with a tree and was taken to a trauma center with a pulmonary pneumothorax (punctured lungs), fractured ribs, fractured clavicle, a fractured pelvis, and internal organs that hemorrhaged (his friends estimated his speed at less than 30 mph), yet another rider had a fractured femur from colliding with someone else.

    Croom is one of the few remaining places open for off road unlicensed vehicles on state land in Florida. The vast majority of people go and have a good time. Please don't let me or any of my coworkers meet you in our professional capacity.

    The following is something I wrote for a local BMW club who wanted to know what to do after an accident: http://dirtmedic.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/after-the-accident/
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    This is exactly the reason why I have the SPOT!!!! One button hit on 911 and away comes the calvary!!! If I am gonna be stupid I figure I should be a little smart and have a way for the awesome Fire and Rescue guys to come find my dumbass without to much trouble!! I spend a $150/year for the full subscriptions that gets me the roadside help or the EMS response with evac if needed. Plus its peace of mind for the wifey when I hit the OK button and she gets a text letting her know I am still good!!!

    Thank you for the post and the insight from the guys that have to come help us when we push it 'just a wee bit too much'!!!!
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    ..........and this coming from the dude that does deep ass sugar 2 up on a big bike!! LOL!!!!! Good thing your wife likes you!!!
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    Great advice...and you guys have hauled out one my buds before after a high velocity impact with a tree. Incredible job. You folks are just plain awesome.

    Thank you for what you do.
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  12. DirtMedic

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    FLARider1, Ironically I have time to surf the internet right now because I am off work nursing an injury of my own. Not MC related though. As soon as I start riding again in another month or so I will be investing in a GPS emergency beacon too. If you have need of it in Croom though, follow it up with a cell phone call. 911 dispatch also notifies forestry. They store a six wheeled mule called a M.E.R.V. that they pull out and warm up for us while we are responding there. The sooner that thing gets warmed up and moving the better. It's top speed is 25 mph on a straight away and a snails pace in the woods. So not fast at all. It is ancient, but it gets the job done. SPOT type services have a lag time for notifying EMS. They do work with emergency dispatch to help us locate you so it is good to use as well.

    Brewmann, Thank you. I hope your friend's situation turned out ok.
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  13. DirtMedic

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    Didn't mean to hijack the thread, just wanted to take the opportunity to throw out some info about Croom. As for the OP, you may want to consider dual sport. A lot more places open to ride. I love mine and while I am not ever going to catch air on my pig, I can go to some pretty neat places deep in the woods.
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  14. ex250mike

    ex250mike Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the info guys.
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  16. DirtMedic

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    If you have the skill go for it, if you don't and it was during my dinner, just remember I choose what size IV needle to use. :D
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  17. FASTnSPEEDY

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    Where do you live? There are smaller trail areas spread all over. Most aren't worth a really long drive, but a short drive for a few hours of riding is pretty common.

    Also, talk to your buddies about getting on their hunt leases. Most leases are for recreational access to property for a year. Some clubs only do deer season so are unused Jan/Feb ish- August/Sep ish.
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  18. ex250mike

    ex250mike Been here awhile

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    I'm in Deland about 40 miles N of orlando.

    I've recently found there is quite a bit of really nice mountain bike trails nearby. So, I've been pedaling around some great single track without having to drive far. Its great but I'd still like some motorized action.

    Several years ago I was in a 4x4 club and we did ride some private land down in holopaw. It was mostly just mud and swamp. Not really dirtbike friendly. I don't know of anyplace else nearby. I'm sure places exist, I'm just un-aware of them.

    I work mon-thurs so I've got a 3 day weekend every weekend. I could do a bit of driving once a month or so in order get some use from a dirtbike. My main idea would be to ride highland park in GA 3-4 times a year. I used to live 20 miles from there. I love the area and still have friends to visit there.

    I realize dual sports will open up alot more riding opportunities. However, I have more free time than money. Dirtbikes are cheap, dualsports aren't (tag, tax etc...) I don't want to sink all my play money into one thing.

    If the dirtbike doesn't work out I can re-coup my money, possibly even make a few $$$ of it.

    It will be around dec-jan before I buy anything. So, I've got plenty of time.
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  19. youcanrunnaked

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    I just got a DR650 and would like to meet up with other Floridians to explore dirt riding opportunities. I live in south Florida but am willing to travel. Monitoring this thread for riding suggestions and would like to get pm's from anybody who wants to go exploring with me.
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