Little help with Vespa I found

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  1. OSJ

    OSJ Formally DunkinDuck

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    I found this In a local antique store. It looks to be in very good shape. At the time the person in the store had no info on it, other than it has no motor. Going back today to get some more info, hopefully. Meanwhile can anyone tell me what model it is just from this photo. And how hard would it be to find a motor and get this on the road?

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  2. cdwise

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    You might want to ask in the "not so modern" section of Modern Vespa http://modernvespa.com/forum/forum19 You will find a lot of people there who will be more able to answer your question.
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  3. gogogordy

    gogogordy Long timer

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    Frankly that looks like a vietnamese "bodge"'scooter to me, so proceed very carefully as those typically are unsafe for poor structural repairs covered by niceish paint.

    The paint scheme, improper grips and legshield welting all look characteristically iffy.

    And where is the engine? Those bodges often dont run well too long and the PO may have had engine issues typical to these bodges as well.

    Yes, Modern Vespa's NSM board with pictures for additional opinions.
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  4. tbonestone

    tbonestone Been here awhile

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    It could be a bodge; I'm not sure... kinda looks like a wide body GS which is tough to get a motor for. Sportique can make a mount that'll accecpt any large frame p-series motor.
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  5. gogogordy

    gogogordy Long timer

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    Who would restore it to that level without a viable motor? Not to mention the handlebars, I didnt think the GS was ever a "handlebar" model?
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  6. Bronco638

    Bronco638 Nobody Home

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    I had a '63 GS160. What do you mean by "handle bar model"?
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  7. gogogordy

    gogogordy Long timer

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    The open, motorycle styled handlebars.

    Vespas evolved away from those and towards the enclosed type and I didnt know the GS ever was a "handlebar" model.
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  8. tbonestone

    tbonestone Been here awhile

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    I could be wrong on the gs part too, but that carb access panel hint that it was a wide mount motor. The exposed handle bars did go through part of the 50's
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  9. seraph

    seraph asshole on a scooter

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    People who aren't really "restoring" it, but instead just tossing some Bondo and fresh paint on a sketchy frame and kit-bashing whatever other parts onto it they can to make a mechanically dubious scooter that looks nice for importation to the US from southeastern Asia to be sold at stupid markup - i.e. a "bodge." And always with two-tone paint!

    I'd suggest reading around here: http://www.scooterlounge.com/vespa/buyers-guide/vespa-handlebar.shtml, asking at ModernVespa's NotSoModern section as mentioned, and generally Internet searching about "vespa bodges."

    The handlebars definitely throw it to pre-GS, but it could also be a GS with a handlebar swap, I'm not well-versed enough in very old Vespas to really know.

    If you DO end up buying it check the body very thoroughly for signs of poor repair, welds, or Bondo. Finding a motor shouldn't be too hard if you don't care about originality, as you should be able to swap in a later-model 2-stroke shifty Vespa engine without too much effort. I suspect an original handlebar (or GS) motor would be hard to find, but motors from P-series bikes (PX150, P200) are very common. Many people swap in LML-made motors - the same that come in the Genuine Stella - and they are near identical (slight improvements, really) to PX150 lumps.

    How much do they want for it?
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  10. max57

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    The seats suggest it is from the 50s.
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  11. gogogordy

    gogogordy Long timer

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    I had those on my 1973 Sprint.
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  12. seraph

    seraph asshole on a scooter

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    You can buy those anywhere.
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  13. Warney

    Warney Been here awhile

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    Pick up a "Spot Rot" tool and run it all over and under the body of the Scooter. You'll quickly know where the hod is. My instincts say approach with caution. What information does the Title have on it?
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  14. fullmetalscooter

    fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off

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    If you post more picture people might be able to tell if it crap or not. No engine makes me think it an import were the engine blow up and someone let it go. google and you ll find lot of info on telling Asia import vespa and what to look out for. even search here I think I once posted a thread on it just for fun. Lots of picture of and info.
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  15. OSJ

    OSJ Formally DunkinDuck

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    no info yet, stopping by tomorrow. I will take a few more photo's

    thanks for all your help so far.
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