Living with a Husky TE510!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Yellow Pig, Dec 7, 2009.

  1. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    My TE has a digital tachometer built into the speedo.

    6500 rpm was hard to hold because of the power band.

    I should have gone w/ 5500, it would have been easier to get a consistent rpm/reading.
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  2. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    The reason I asked about the rpm is because through all the details I've read about the SAE noise test indicate a 3400 RPM for that engine displacement.

    check out this link and the KTM 530 rpm test requirement on page 4:

    http://parks.state.co.us/SiteCollectionImages/parks/Programs/OHV%20Program/2006-2009%20MIC%20Stationary%20Sound%20Test%20RPM%20Supplement.pdf


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  3. Yellow Pig

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    Fast you are right. I have since done a bit more reading.

    That's why I'm saying pseudo scientific test: I do not know how accurate the Scosche digital sound meter is or how accurately I followed the sound testing instructions.

    I did 20 inches from the muffler tip a 45 degree angle at 1/2 max RPM.
    The 510 does at leat 11K rpm, so I should have been at 5kish for sound testing. The actual calculation for testing rpm is something like x/stroke.

    A few things I know were off:

    1- I think the test needs to be done in a completely open area (I was by the garage, but facing away)
    2- The test should be done on a soft surface like dirt or grass (I was on concrete)
    3- My car was prked next to the bike.
    4- Most bikes in the 450cc range 525/530cc range get tested between 3500 and 4500 RPM

    The important thing is relative change between the exhausts.

    Note: The FMFs and most other exhaust manufacturer are known to be optimistic w/ their exhaust ratings.
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  4. Yellow Pig

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    I do plan on re-testing the mounted FMF at lower rpms.
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  5. NorCalslowpoke

    NorCalslowpoke Long timer

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    I owned a 650r and went to an 07 510, for the same reasons you are considering it.

    The 510 sounds like it would be a pretty good "do it all" bike in your situation. If you did more street miles and very little tight trails, I'd say no way, keep the 650r (or go with a 610/630).

    The 510 will not have that "no way I can break this thing" anvil type quality of the 650r. You will do more tinkering & maintenance.

    If you go with the 510, plan on changing the counter shaft sprocket to suit your ride for the week/day. The bike has very narrow gear spacing. This is great for off road riding, you will always have a correct gear (or two).

    I geared mine way up for a Baja trip, worked great. I will gear it down for local trails. Also you will need to budget an aftermarket seat and getting the suspension set up for you.

    It is a bit vibey when riding on the street, but so is the 650r. Get vibranators to help with the bars.

    http://www.vibranator.com/

    I was able to get the hang of starting the 650r & I would buy one again, but...it was a handful in the tight stuff, just way too much bike for my lame skills.

    The 510 is a pretty damn good "do it all" bike, even if it is on the "race bike with lights" side of the equation. If I did only single tract, I probably go with an even smaller bike (450/310?).

    My 07 510 (carbed) is very easy to work on, so maintenance is a pleasure, not a chore. There are some tricks/quirks, like any bike.

    An intangible: Most Husky owners are pretty cool (myself excluded..:) and CafeHusky.com is a great source for info/help.

    Someone else mentioned the 610/630. Problem with these stellar bikes is that they weigh as much as a 650r. It would be a top choice for an "only one bike" bike, if you don't have a street bike.

    Would I make the change again? Yes Do I miss my 650r? Sometimes, but never, ever in the tight stuff...
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  6. 2Plain

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    Scott & Mercury264- Thanks for the great info and input!

    Yellow Pig- Sorry for the unintentional hijack. I have read many of your posts regarding the 650r in the past....so was interested to read your impressions of the TE510. I just picked-up the 08 TE510......so will be following this thread with interest. Snow is still melting off in our area so local riding is a ways off.

    Cheers
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  7. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    Thanks for the compliments!

    Once the darn snow clears here in Colorado and I finally get to do some real dirt I'll post a real write-up/comparo between the BRP and the Husky.

    Till then I have to content myself w/ tinkering.

    This weather is killing my wallet.

    I'm headed to Moab in the end of April, that should provide for some proper proving grounds! :lol3
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  8. Yellow Pig

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    Someone on TT finally found the correct testing RPM:

    The SAE J1287 testing RPM it is: RPM = 250,000 / stroke (mm).
    This is your standard- 45' angle 20" test in a clear area outside.

    08-09Husqvarna TE250/310 55mm 4545
    08/09 Husqvarna TE450 60.7 4118
    08/09 Husqvarna TE510 67.8 3687
    08/09 Husqvarna TE610 76.4 3272

    Needless to say I was almost double the RPM range. I think that goes to show that even when within the minimum standard 96dB rating the bikes are loud. I don't know of anyone that rides at 3600RPM. So anything not meeting the minimum standard is ridiculously loud.
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  9. Yellow Pig

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    So I just got done re-testing the Husky at the proper rpm (3650). I only tested the FMF Q4 with spark arrestor inserted and adjusted the other numbers mathematically using the difference I measured between dB at 6500 and dB at 3650 (6dB).

    Not the most scientific way , but it gets me in the ball park and I did not feel like dismounting and remounting a bunch of exhausts.

    Here are the results:

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  10. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    Got some graphics to spiffy up the ugly tank:

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  11. Olas

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    Looking nice, YP! What's the reason for the 90 degree bend at the top of the windscreen?
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  12. Fast1

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    So there really is only a negligible difference between the stock Arrow with spark arrestor and the FMF with spark arrestor? If so, why make the change? It was my understanding that the factory Arrow exhaust with sparky was designed to meet the 96 db limit at appropriate rpm which your testing confirms.

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  13. 1stworks

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    looks sweet!!!!
    Cant wait to give her a run in the SAND!!!!

    :clap

    :freaky
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  14. Yellow Pig

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    Q-So there really is only a negligible difference between the stock Arrow with spark arrestor and the FMF with spark arrestor? If so, why make the change?

    Three reasons:

    1- Before I got the FMF I was hoping it would be a bit more quiet than the Arrow, w/out being as restrictive as the Husky dB killer.

    2-From a purely subjective noise level the FMF seems to me to be more mellow across the sound range, the Arrow has a bit of rasp/ tinniness to me that hurts my ears. ( I've been a bit sensitive to certain sound frequencies , while being tone deaf to others, since I was hit w/ an IED in Iraq)

    3- The FMF was on sale for a great price.

    In the end 90% of the people out there would be better off saving their $$$$ and sticking w/ the Arrow. Someone had to bite the bullet and do the test run. :wink:
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  15. Yellow Pig

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    Two reasons:

    1- So as not to have a sharp guillotine type edge on the fairing. That's the part that will get you in the throat or bridge of the nose in a crash.

    2- I have found that that little lip really helps w/ airflow. I Copied the old BMW 650 Dakar windscreen

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  16. Yellow Pig

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    Since I don't have a rack yet I decided to give the Giant Loop MoJavi a try.

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    Looks I might not need a rack at all. The Mojavi is well built and fits the bike perfectly. It hold just enough for a day ride (tools, tubes, a bit of extra fuel and the light weight fleece for the morning chill).

    Tools on top:
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    Fuel (2.1 liter Nalgene) on the right away from the exhaust:
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    Tubes and the rest can go on the left side.


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    While standing or sitting on the bike you don't even notice it's there. It even gives you plenty of room to slide backward to hop over logs or steep down hills.

    I opted to notch the rear fender to give the bag a tighter hold.
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    Construction seems really solid.

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    I'm gonna load it up and give it a test run mid week on an enduro circuit.

    I'll report back after the real test run.
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  17. xscoobysnack

    xscoobysnack Been here awhile

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    Where did you buy that bag? I need one of those.
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  18. Yellow Pig

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  19. Hair

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    I came this close to buying your BRP. From the looks of things I did right by holding off. All I need to do now is to buy a 630 and read your thread from page one.

    Nice bike, Great setup.
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  20. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    Well the MoJavi works superbly. I carried 15 lbs of stuff (tools, tubes and spare fuel) and rode for two hours on an Enduro/hare scramble course full of whoops and I only had to snug up the left side once. After that it was rock solid.

    Best of all I did not even notice it was there. I only felt the rear tool bag on my bum once while hopping a log.

    This bag certainly voids the need for a rear rack.

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    The only thing holding me back were the god awful stock Karoo II tires. I have since spooned on some Maxxis Desert tires which are guaranteed to be an improvement.


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    The only caveat and this is mentioned in the mounting instructions is that the bag will scuff up your plastics and you need to install some sort of protective adhesive layer.

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