Living with a Husky TE510!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Yellow Pig, Dec 7, 2009.

  1. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    I also did my first valve check at 400 miles and everything was in spec. The bike is a dream to work. It's super easy to get the valve cover off and work on the valves. Great design and lots of maneuver room.

    While I was at it I added a crank case breather hose so I don't get any oil in the airbox.

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    Additionally I installed a CRF450X mud-flap since it is a rigid piece versus the floppy rubber OEM Husky one.

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    The fit is perfect and requires only relocating the left hole.

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    I also trimmed a bit of the mud-flap to allow it to sit flush w/ the swing arm. There is a section of the upper chain guide which interferes whit the mud flap.

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    I feel like the OEM chain is too short and should be a couple of links longer to allow for more clearance between the tire and the swing arm. It's pretty tight in there and there is tons of adjustment room to the rear.

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    Following an inmates suggestion I moved the rear tug strap from the side panel bolts to the rear frame bolt:

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  2. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    Lucky you to be out riding. I'm surprised they stick Karoos on the TE510 now as stock rubber. The Michelin Enduros that came on my 08 were much better than the Karoos. I also notice clearance issues with a new aggresively knobbed rear tire and the swing arm flap with the stock chain. Since I primarily use a 14 or 15 tooth counter for my ride terrain, I purchased a new chain two links longer. This allows use of all three counter sprockets (13.14.15) although the axle is almost all the way back in the slider slots with the 13 spinning on the front.

    Have you had an opportunity to check your fuel economy? During easy dual sport riding mine would do ~40 mpg. Throwing in some deep sand riding and a wrist full of power would put it down in the low 30s. Best was in the mid 40's on packed dirt roads at speeds between 45 and 60 mph with minimal rock throwing from the right wrist.
  3. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    I finally got a few hard off-road miles on the bike by doing several hundred miles of single-track in Utah. Because of the trail ridden I geared back down to 13/47, which was optimal for the more technical stuff. Didn't do much dual sporting, but on the few fire roads we hit I certainly could have use a bit higher gearing.

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    I didn't get many pictures of the Husky cause my riding buddies are bums and left all the photography to me, plus we were too happy to be riding after a long winter to stop often.



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    Overall the bike performed well. The suspension was great (all I needed to do was dial in some additional preload in the rear), the power delivery smooth and linear. Compared to my old XR650R the bike feels much lighter and more maneuverable, in particular in the really tight stuff. I do miss the stump pulling torque the BRP has right off the bottom and sometimes wished the Husky has a wider ratio gear box, but overall I love the bike.





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    A couple of caveats:

    - Make sure you check the engine mounting bolts. On day three of the trip I fired the bike up in the morning and heard a strange rattle. Needless to say the upper front bolt was only held in by the skid-plate, having lost it's nut and the lower mounting bolt nut was almost all the way off. I recommend getting some nylock nuts and thread-locking them on.

    - The white bike looks great when new, but scuffs up fast in the dirt and is impossible to clean. I still need to try the Mr Clean Magic Eraser trick an inmate suggested. Seems like a great Idea.

    - With the EFI you need to really pay attention to the start up sequence. When stopped at a junction waiting for the guy behind you you cant simply turn the key on and hit the starter button and go. It's more like turn the key, wait for the dash to run through the start up sequence and listen for the fuel pump to prime the injectors.....then hit start.

    - The bike was sometimes hard to start when warm and would take several seconds of starter to fire or even would require turning off and running the whole start up sequence to fire up.

    - The Husky sure looks like she is bleeding to death when you dump it on it's right side and you just filled it w/ fresh bright red synthetic Silkolene oil. The first time it happened I thought I had punctured the case because of all the oil on the ground. The installation of a filter on the breather hose did not slow the flow of blood the least bit when the bike was on its side.

    - Not too fond of this super straight kickstand, it's very finicky and almost requires you to lean the bike away from you to get it down. The design could certainly use some improvement.

    The Maxis IT Deserts performed well and did not supper any puncture or flats. I ran about 14 ps in the front and 12 in the rear.

    When I do change the chain I will go with one that is 2-3 links longer. The stock one is too short and keeps the tire to close to the neck of the swingarm.

    The MoJavi bag was great. Once on it never moved and required minimal snugging every other day.

    That's all I got for now.
  4. sp4ce

    sp4ce Orange Invader

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    Thanks for all the info and continued updates :thumb

    I'm swapping my 94 WXC 610 in for a new 09 TE450 this weekend.
  5. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    The tanks should be available around the 15th of Sept according to the Just Gas Tanks web site.

    I'm torn on which color to pick:

    -WHITE: looks best, especially once you put the red Husky grafix on the side, but white gets dirty really fast and is almost impossible to keep looking nice and clean.

    -BLACK: looks cool and will look sharp w/ the red Husky side-panel grafix on it. My main concern w/ the black is it absorbers too much heat and tends to make the gas boil.

    -NATURAL: looks like shit, but is very functional. Keeps the gas cool and allows you to see the fuel level.
  6. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    In the mean time I've upgraded the headlight to an 8" Trail Tech Race light which I have retro fitted w/ a Bi Xenon HID, a Baja Designs Yellow polycarb Shield and an H-4 7" Hella Hi/Low conversion. (The 7" adapter and headlight is made by Boatman on ADV)

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    It takes a bit of finagling to get all the wiring tucked nicely away behind the headlight.

    Not much room back there to hide everything.
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    I also used the HID ballast mounting plate to make a custom dash to hold the OEM speedo and a couple of switches and the keyed ignition.

    So far I've got the heated grips switch and a master light switch so I can turn off the lights. This came in handy this past weekend when I killed the battery trying to start the bike with it's hot start problems.

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    Note: I could initially feel the additional weight of the headlight up front, but after a few miles of recalibration that feeling has disappeared.
  7. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    So far I've gone 1150 miles on the bike and it has been lots of fun.

    A Couple of thoughts on the bike so far:

    I checked the valves twice so far, at approx 350 miles and just yesterday at 1150, they have not moved a fraction of an inch and are still on the loose side of the speck.

    This despite having been flogged relentlessly in the Whitewash sand dunes,
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    on the Colorado single track and despite running hot and having over heated several times.

    The seat mod w/ memory foam has turned out to be not so great. The profile and trim is perfect, but the memory foam material is not good. Rock hard when it's cold and way too soft when hot. Will have it redone in the same profile w/ some med. density foam.

    I'm not too fond of the close gear ration on the bike and wish it had a wider ratio, seems more practical for all around riding, plus you don't constantly have to shift gears to be in the sweet spot.

    The vibrations have not gotten any better, you just get used to them. This past weekend I rode my buddies 525 and was amazed at how smooth the bike is, much like my old XR650R. Why does a modern bike like the Husky have to vibe so much? That really made it hard to get back on the Husky.

    The Husky starter seems weak and anemic compared to the starter on a 525 which turns the bike over w/ vigor and decisiveness.
  8. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    My bike used to overheat a lot (it's what killed my 450) but since I added Engine Ice, a higher pressure rad cap (1.8 ?) and, most importantly, a fan (I just wired it to a manual switch - no thermostat so when the bike is running, I have the fan pretty much running all the time) and so far (touch wood) it's been fine and not overheated once and it's been pretty hot here of late.

    What is the problem with hot-starting ? Does it not turn over (I had to use the manual de-comp on my 450 all the time to get the engine turning over but not so much on the 510) or does it turn over and just not start ? I was going to install a switch for the headlight like you but I was told (or read somewhere mebbe) that it wouldn't help since the lighting runs directly of the stator and so doesn't help charge the battery/give more power to the starter :dunno

    Good luck with both problems :thumb

    Edit: Sorry...should read your entire post before I post :D
  9. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    8000+ miles on my TE510 and never a problem with starting while warm nor any over heating in 90 to 100 temps.

    Were you not the one that plugged your exhaust with something to quiet it down? Wondering if that is causing your overheat and starting issues with improper fuel metering ... What idle speed do you have your bike running at when warm?
  10. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    I just have the FMF quiet insert. The Autotune in theory should adjust for any changes in the fueling since it's running on a wide band open loop O2 sensor.
  11. Jrmobb

    Jrmobb Been here awhile

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    Thanks for all the updates. Im also running into the over heating issues. It seems my fan is on constantly whenever the weather is warm and im ridding single trail. Im sooo glad i have the overflow can since it boils over so much. I need to put Georges T inline and get the 1.8 rad cap and I think it will fix allot of my troubles.

    The bikes always start up easy and the only time it has left me stranded was when the battery was super dead. I had to kick start it since starter would not crank. I got the smart idea to just kick start it and ride it around to charge the battery. I stopped for a second and the battery could not prime the fuel pump anymore and then it would not kickstart. I plan on carring a small jumper cable to prevent this from now on.

    my 09 TE510 only has around 1650 miles




    Autotune using o2 sensor puts the system in Closed loop. Closed loop uses the o2 sensor reading and constantly adjusts for changes.open loop saves the settings and works like a electronic carb(no o2 sensor). Weird how backwards it sounds huh
  12. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    Ah! Thanks for the clarification..
    By the way there is a new High Flow Water pump out that has a re designed impeller thats flows much more water. The stock impeller looks like crap.

    The Husky POS on the left:
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    Husky High Flow Impeller
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    Now I just need to find out where to source one!
  13. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Isn't there an argument that you don't actually want more flow - you want the coolant to stay in the radiator longer to give it more time to cool down :dunno
  14. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    It's kind of like a Laffer Curve, there is a point of diminishing returns, but on the Husky I think need more flow, since the coolant is boiling over way too fast.


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  15. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    :thumb

    Please report back.
  16. Jrmobb

    Jrmobb Been here awhile

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    That impeller looks very interesting. Thanks for the post, I might have to investigate that more. At this point the overheating issue is one of my biggest complaints.
  17. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    Along with that is determining why the engine is running beyond normal temps that will not allow effective cooling with the factory cooling system that works on 99% of the bikes. Overheating is a symptom of a problem and putting a band-aid on it will only be a short term remedy.
  18. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    8K :huh

    That is mighty impressive :thumb

    Love to know if you've had any issues with it during that time ? Have you had to replace the cam chain/valves etc. ? How many times have you had to re-shim the valves ?

    Thanks
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  19. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    No cam chain or valve replacement. I have yet to adjust the valve clearance since it still is in spec and they never required any adjustement even at the first 600 mile check. I installed the Husky power up kit on my bike at zero miles also. Had a fork seal blow at 8K that I am just replacing. Other than normal stuff like tires, sprockets, chain, oil filters, oil and air filters it has been exceptional. The only problem I have is that it is a tall bike and my girlfriend at 5'6" isn't tall enough to ride it.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=365470





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  20. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    I'm at 1150 and just checked the valves for the 2nd time and they are still on the loose end of the spec.