So pointing out the idea (some might say fact) that one could chose a more reliable mule than a Ural is horribly insensitive, rude and negative selling? Was my comment not accurate or good advice to a potential Noob? Point well said and understood. I tend to be 'full disclosure' kind of person, i say what i think. Sadly i tend to speak my mind too often without regard to how well it will serve me. I shall always remain a small one man show for this very reason. I believe there are wiser ways to enter the sidecar world than with a Ural and also feel one can get into sidecaring (although it seems there is an 'artistic flair' deficit) for considerably less $ than a high end rig costs. I have a long list of happy customers from over 20 years of doing this. My gripe is the proponents of these other 2 routes seem to give the impression their's is the only way to join this sport. There are other choices. Claude offers goods and services which are worth every penny if one wants to go that route. He has many happy customers to prove that. I am happy for him (he earned his success) and his customers(they made a good choice for themselves). Is it heresy to disagree and state what to me seems obvious? That there are choices?