LoneStar's Adventure to South America

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by LoneStar, Sep 7, 2017.

  1. Andsetinn

    Andsetinn Adventurer

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    Please keep those interesting ride reports coming, and don't forget to take pictures. :-)

    I usually purchase products on the low budged side of the market (Rev-it clothes, HJC helmet) while trying to avoid going into the very cheap side. I don't have the big budget anyway, but it is mainly because it sucks less when they fail. Buy cheap, buy twice, simple. Buy expensive, return to manufacturer for fix, argue with manufacturer over warranty, stop using product, let it rot in your garage while you keep using the cheap product you bought for few days emergency use.
    I avoid aftermarket motorcycle products unless they are for bling. A small LED construction flood light can work better than dedicated motorcycle LED add on light. Cheaper and higher quality seals can be bought at dealers for manufacturers like SKF. Small companies entering the market, or just catering to local market, can have much better products than the big international companies. It is not just motorcycle products, your inexpensive, overnight, custom made, leather camera bag continues to be used.
    Another thing that I consider a big minus is how complicated current big adventure bikes are. Your BMW needed parts almost as rare as hens teeth, plus hours and hours of major surgery, only to replace a simple seal. Then your ECU went into stupid mode, ran rich, fouled your plugs, plus all the other stuff. 250-500cc homemade adventure bikes may not be better (CRF, WR, etc). It depends on the work that has been done to them, but they are viable alternative at half the price.
    I am not going to go into my opinions on how this happens, like "don't believe internet reviews", "the designers don't have experience with the products", "it costs money to make quality, the big companies use that money on marketing" and "the good materials are banned because they are poisonous or pollute".
    Keep your wheels rolling and on the ground. :ricky
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  2. MrKiwi

    MrKiwi Love my Tranny

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    @LoneStar I'm surprised to hear your comments about Rev-It gear. I've personally not had much luck with that brand.

    But no matter what brand I wear for wet riding I always put on a water proof shell. On my last day of my European ride in June I had to haul it back to base and rode 700 kilometres of autobahn in torrential rain. Stayed dry. Goretex is wonderful stuff but it will fail at seams if those seams are stitched.
  3. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    I have one as well and tp :D I offered to sell it to Ward when he was freezing and wet the other day but he wouldn't go for the price
  4. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    I can't speak from personal experience, only from the people wearing them, so who knows??? I always bring a rain suit anyway and have decided to just forget trying to find real waterproof jackets and pants.
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  5. pdedse

    pdedse paraelamigosincero

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    I'm waiting by the fireside for some eye-popping, professional photos of all this @$#%@ defective gear!

    (such are the expectations when you set the bar so high with your fotografĂ­a)
  6. Dalmatino

    Dalmatino Been here awhile

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    LoneStar sorry to hear about your problems and I feel for you and you have every right to be pissed off!!
    Reading this has steered up what I've been aggravated about for a while now so I got throw my 2c in.

    I've built/farkeld so many bikes over the years I lost count and I never had as many problems with all of them as I've had with last years build. Pretty much everything I had done or bought had to be redone or sent back for something. Majority of everything I've bought in the 90's and up to mid 2000's lasted for years and stayed waterproof for years and was decent quality and got my moneys worth...Not so much now!

    It seems recently no one gives a F**k about quality at all and have no worries about the ramifications from it primarily because there's is none.
    I see a real bad shift in human behavior in last several years (particularly in last few), reflected in service and product quality. Greed, economy based on consumerism, no accountability and total lack of moral values are all contributions to this.

    Any way safe riding and hope your brake-downs are done with so you can finish your trip in less worry and frustration...
  7. C5dad

    C5dad Man on the Run!

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    Lone star

    I do appreciate an honest review of gear as it's working for you on the trip.

    It's sad that TT's stuff didn't hold up for the exorbitant price. Go figure they wouldn't provide warranty service since they are coming out of bankruptcy. Yeah, us adventurers with deep pockets...

    Hope things start getting better so you are in the road more and in the shops less!
  8. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    Thanks for all the thoughtful responses and I wish I had time to respond to each of you.

    I think the amount of money I've spent over the last few years has been outrageous compared to the quality and service I've received for the outlay. I find more and more that reputation isn't worth shit anymore because so many product makers produce substandard products sheerly for fast profit and spend their money on branding and advertising their "reputation".

    I'll stop naming names, but I bought a highly reputable tank bag a few years ago and paid through the nose for it based on all the drooling "experts" on Advrider. The damn thing was no more than a slouching black bag that couldn't keep its shape, and the map pocket was such a weird size that you could tell it's designer never even tried to stick a map in it. That's the kind of crap I'm talking about. Problem is that here on advrider, there are so many minions of idiocy who have to have the latest rage to make themselves look the part of Mr. Adventureman. They foster continuing stupidity by glorifying whatever the latest product is more for the image of being current and badass than really using it and critiquing the product. I've always tried to find the soft middle where a decent product at a decent price is found and there have been a few gems in the mix. I can't say I've had the same percentage of luck with high priced items and thus my rant... Even though the throbbing vein on my forehead is purple and the size of a thumb, it feels good to vent :lol3


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    And now, after all that verbal spewage, I got the bike from TT and they did a great job on the rear shock. Ivan set it up properly and it felt like a hard tail Harley without the luggage. In addition they tweaked the front as much as possible to stiffen it. He said the front spring seemed a bit soft but he had no stiffer ones in stock so he couldn't replace it. Best of all, he said TT USA and Germany had discussed it and decided to cover it under warranty. I suspect a call was made, but I'm appreciative. As mentioned, TT Peru is really a top notch place and it shows in the store and shop.

    I've grown increasingly wary of the growing splits in the rear Motoz tire, and it was one of the first things Ivan pointed out when he saw the bike. He said every Motoz Tractionator or Tractionator GPS they'd seen had splits and they'd replaced them for a lot of travelers. Mine was bought new in Panama City but had developed splits before I was out of Colombia - I simply can't recommend them. I'd planned to take the rear all the way to Santiago before shoeing up with Heidenaus again, but there's no way the rear would have made it.

    Guys, I can't wait to get back to traveling and shooting so I'll try to minimize my bitching and hopefully get rolling in good favor from above again!
  9. OtterChaos

    OtterChaos Guzzi Sud!

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    Love the stories of real happenings on the road including the thoughts on gear and equipment. You have the right to bitch about things that don't work as advertised and I know I have a few items in my possession from the "saw it in ADVrider and bought it" collection that didn't work so well for me. Keep it up!
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  10. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    Besides Touratech Peru, I found a great gear shop called "Motorrad Style and Tours". It's apparently owned by a German guy and is located in a shopping mall. It's top notch and features Held jackets and gear, Wunderlich accessories, Hepco Becker cases, Schuberth helmets and parts, and a lot more. He has the best stock of Schuberth stuff I've ever seen, aside from helmets there is a huge selection of shields in all colors, etc. R1200GS airfilters, Heidenau tires and much more. http://motorradtoursperu.com/

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    There is also a serious DJI drone store in the same shopping center called All 4 Race that has lots of DJI parts, drones batteries etc.
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  11. ONandOFF

    ONandOFF more off than on

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    Coolness! :thumb

    It's encouraging to see that someone else has noticed. Yet you do realize it's sacrilege to call it out though. One aspect is that after spending big bucks on some silly farkle or modification, they'll swear up and down how wonderful and what an amazing night-and-day difference it made. Some of us recognize the hyperbole, but try calling them out on it! (not) It's rare and refreshing to hear someone honestly admit their money was wasted, and for others to watch out (rather than the normal misery-loves-company "if you don't recognize how great it is to jump on this bandwagon then you're just dumb" approach). So, thanks!
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  12. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    Heresy and I may be shunned! Or worse, receive an old fashioned "bearding".
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  13. ONandOFF

    ONandOFF more off than on

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  14. Parcero

    Parcero Mundial

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    Motorrad Tours PerĂș looks like good moto shops used to look in the U.S.A. before the internet and online shopping made carrying a big in-store inventory a bad idea.
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  15. CharlestonADV

    CharlestonADV I do my own stunts!

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    Oddly, Aerostich seems to be ignored in preference to Klim, etc. FWIW, with proper care, my Aerostich stuff works...for years.
  16. yamalama

    yamalama wet coaster

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    Aerostich is my go-to brand. i have as well received brilliant customer service from them, far beyond the call of duty, imho.
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  17. elron

    elron Still Standing

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    Proper washing and treatment of "waterproof" jackets is imperative to maintaining. I too have heard of failed Rev-its and Klims and IMO doubt they were properly maintained. My Badlands, from the 2nd year they came out, has worked w/o fail thru many a storm, including hard driving rains on the interslabs. That being said, I never go w/o a back-up rain jacket. Also when on the road long term, the ability to properly wash can be limited. I'd rather leave dirty until Nixwax or whatever you use is available, if. All opinions are anecdotal for the most part, mine included. You are having, reporting and photographing a great ride, Lonestar...Thanks.
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  18. ONandOFF

    ONandOFF more off than on

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    A friend of mine made the Aerostich catalog in his six year old many thousand mile sun faded roadcrafter.

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  19. CharlestonADV

    CharlestonADV I do my own stunts!

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    Suit did not leak!
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  20. Davidprej

    Davidprej Davidprej

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    I for one really like the honest feedback and don't look at it as bitching, moaning or anything like that. It's valuable feedback from someone who's been there, done that.

    Regarding the above quote, is your choice of bike maybe an instance where you succumbed to what you describe. I've only been riding for 5 years, so I'm new to this whole world, but even you said you chose your BMW for the smile factor, implying not the practicality factor.

    Not trying to criticize in any way. Just dialoguing on the topic and trying to learn from others who are more experienced than me.

    Really enjoying the ride report. I'm only following 3 or 4 RR, but I hope you guys realize how much guys like me (chained to a desk with no hope for more than 3 weeks vacation per year for years to come) enjoy and look forward to living vicariously through your RR's.