Long Distance Endurance Motorcycling - SS1000

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Day Trippin'' started by kwthom, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. kwthom

    kwthom Retiree apprentice - willing to learn

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    Didja ever have one of those rides...

    I have been cooking up a plan recently to accomplish another certified ride on the resume, just a simple in-state Saddlesore 1000 here in the depths of a balmy Arizona winter. Why? Well, why not; I've got nothing better to do, I don't have an Arizona in-state ride, and the weather geniuses have stated this weather pattern is going to last a few days. A day that my wife had to work between the holidays was chosen. The bike is prepped, the gear is ready, time to enjoy a bit of familiar roads for a thousand plus miles.

    I got thru the ride, but – did you ever stop to think that sometimes it's just one darn thing after another? A list of issues that I encountered on this single ride:
    • Wrong receipt data - three different locations. At one location, I managed to take a photo of the receipt, but it was from a previous stop. Another location; the time was off - by like a couple of hours. I asked the guy, "Hey, y'know your computer time is off?" "I can't do anything; sorry!" Gaah!
    • Receipts! Speaking of those, on this ride, I’m taking a photo of the receipt, along with the odometer, for submittal purposes. So, the small clipboard I have is great to hold that receipt next to the Goldwing’s LCD display to get those images. Shoot, I even practiced a couple of times in the garage, just to make sure my point-and-pray camera would catch a shot clearly. The problem is, the clipboard actually has to balance on the end of the key. The key obviously must be either in the ON or ACC position, keeping that display enabled. I’d like for the clipboard to be reasonably level with the LCD display, in order to help the camera a bit (focus). It took about four stops before learning how the handlebar had to help support the clipboard so that it’s all lined up properly.
    • ProTip: Gel-type pens at near freezing temperatures for several hours don’t work at all. Those were the only two pens I had, so this ‘write mileage on the receipt’ trick? Doesn’t work if you don’t have a pen that works. D’oh!
    • Thirty miles into the ride, very close to me fully leaving civilization, my handle-bar mount water bottle decided it wasn't going to go for a long ride, and promptly decided to jump out. Fortunately, the rest of the mount was intact enough for me to stop, tighten things down, before continuing. I'm kinda partial to having one of those 700mL flip-top water bottles, this ride won't have that, but I do have a small cooler with 500mL water bottles. Ugh!
    • My diligence in hitting Bubbler GPS points at my various stops wasn't as good as it should have been - I missed three of them. Since I'm also using my Android phone for a trip computer, Bubbler is typically hiding in the background. I need to derive a way of having Bubbler pop up on the screen after being stationary for a certain period of time (5 minutes?). I've done some research on this to see if it's possible. It is, but it costs money. Need to get that list of stuff to do at each stop better (I’ve said this before…)
    • After availing myself the use of the facilities at a McDonalds along the way, I felt it might also be a good time to grab a quick bite to eat. I'd not eaten anything substantial since dinner the previous evening. The interminable wait for the food order to be processed just is another reminder of why stops are better if they are staggered. I don't recall but less than a handful of times having an unintended stop this long on any of my prior Iron Butt rides.
    • I've done previous rides where my GoPro camera is set up to record still images every 30 seconds. I hadn't realized it, but at my first fuel stop, I managed to mis-align my camera. Instead of it being pointed to the front, it had folded over and was pointing at my seat. D'oh! I didn't actually notice it's position for three hours, only at my 4th stop along the trip. The first three were in total darkness; it's not like that's compelling time-lapse video, seeing car headlights go by, but it does kinda tell a story.
    • I'd thought that rush-hour traffic in the 12th largest metropolitan area (Phoenix) wouldn't be *that* bad on a weekday between the two holidays, during afternoon rush-hour along I-10. ::chuckle:: No, I suppose, I'd hate to see it on a normal weekday. It really wasn't *that* bad, but then again, I like going thru there at any time *other* than rush-hour!
    • Gerbings makes some fine heated gear. At the beginning of the ride, I knew about several hours of temperatures that were anywhere between 34 and 39 degrees. After the second stop, I'd plugged in the liner...and is sorta felt warm, but wasn't sure. I've always worn my jacket with the controller in the jacket itself, just to keep it from getting beat up. When I removed the liner, I did a quick check. "Gee, was this thing on?" ::click:: Nope, it had been off the entire twelve hours I had been wearing it. D'oh!
    • The new Goldwing I have also has a GPS. This version has the ability of importing routing data, so this ride was also a test ride for one I’m hopeful I can do later this year. Using Basecamp to plot this first major ride, and having the information available on the 7” screen in front of me was nice. I do have some small tweaks to do, but I was satisfied that this will be adequate for routing purposes in the future.
    So, after all of those bone-headed problems, another ride was successful. 1030 miles in a leisurely 17:46. Google claims that my moving time was 15:45, and a review of my stop history shows that my normal stop times were in the ten minute range. The 28 minute McD’s stop…wow!

    (I do have a few photos; I'll get them linked into this post a bit later...)
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  2. kendoo

    kendoo Been here awhile

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    Nice ride!! I need a decent ride SOON or I'll go crazy. Probably won't happen until the Jax pizza party though.
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  3. kwthom

    kwthom Retiree apprentice - willing to learn

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    I *do* want to go to that once, but not this year.

    My 1st IBA ride since retirement.
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  4. blacktruck

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    Good for you @kwthom
    Many years ago a friend and I did a 1000 miles in one day but we didn't document it in any way. Just two guys on Harleys coming home from Sturgis broke and tired. I've been wanting to do it again but down here in Texas this time. The stops are a concern due to what you said about receipts not being correct. I watch those intently on my regular trips and see it more than you would think of receipts being incorrect. I've done a couple of 700 mile days so far on this bike and it wasn't difficult at all. Looking forward to seeing what the other 300 miles will feel like. I haven't used a GPS on the bike but need to look into that I suspect.
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  5. kwthom

    kwthom Retiree apprentice - willing to learn

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    A few tips: http://www.ironbuttrally.com/tech/aow.cfm

    You don't need a GPS, but you do need a good route, and - for your first ride - a witness that's not on the ride with you (e.g. spouse, whoever...) to sign your witness form, stating "Yep, I saw @blacktruck here at this time, and his odometer read XYZ". See http://www.ironbutt.com/ and for the details about the Saddlesore 1000, check here http://www.ironbutt.com/themerides/ssseries/ Everything you need is there.

    At about the 800 mile mark, I get a little sore. This ride had a couple more stops baked into it, so every couple hours I was off the bike. This is the 8th one of these I've done; they *do* get easier. I hadn't done anything more than a couple hundred mile rides since May, so this was just a tune-up ride.

    They'd be a LOT easier if I lost 20 40 50 pounds or so... :dirtdog

    Texas? Weather's about perfect now - or once you get about 48 hours where the temps will stay above freezing and no chance of rain.

    Luck to ya!
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  6. BeauGeste

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    So is it just me or is parody just getting harder to see these days...
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  7. kwthom

    kwthom Retiree apprentice - willing to learn

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    Ya had to use *this* thread for your first post??

    :lol2

    :bueller
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  8. WRC51

    WRC51 Been here awhile

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    How did riders verify the mileage and times before cell phones and GPS type tools? I have always wanted to try one but I know I could never do it. I need *that* carrot to keep me going, thanks enjoyed your ride.
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  9. kwthom

    kwthom Retiree apprentice - willing to learn

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    Ancient technology called 'paper maps and atlases' :lol3

    @HeidiHo is one of those ancient members of this little fraternity, and would be able to speak to how it was done 'in the good old days' in detail.

    Remember, that 51% of this exercise is physically doing the ride. The other 49% is actually having sufficient proof that another person could confirm you've ridden the miles you have claimed.

    I think that's why the old timers would always plan a ride that would be 5% longer (thus, to be certain you've ridden 1000+ miles, plan on a ~1050 mile ride)

    On every route I've done, Google Maps has been quite accurate - like five to ten miles over a thousand plus miles.
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  10. Rollin'

    Rollin' does it come in black?

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    Nice ride! :thumbup
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  11. Rollin'

    Rollin' does it come in black?

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    Are you asking about planning the ride or verifying the miles ridden during the ride?
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  12. HeidiHo

    HeidiHo Mad Scientist

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    Somehow I just knew that @Rollin' and I would get into this thread.

    Congrats to @kwthom for ANOTHER successful IBA certified ride. Don't let the issues that he spoke of fool you, the man is a pro at this stuff.

    As for how we "ancient riders" documented our rides in the olde days.....before the use of cell phones, or smart phones, or GPS......we simply used a credit card at a gas pump, and got a printed receipt. Many of us would also turn in a AAA map of our route that was ridden, along with the witness forms, and the gas receipts.

    As for witnesses, the best witnesses in the world is a local Fire Dept, or Police Station. While a rider "can" use a wife or a friend, those witnesses can be thought of as biased in favor of the rider. Whereas a Fireman or a Policeman would be the most objective.

    The alternative would be an existing IronButt Association member that is willing to sign your paperwork as a witness.

    Once any of you really get INTO this kind of riding, like @Rollin' is, and like @kwthom is......you find that you will print off a dozen or more of the "Witness Forms", and carry them with you in a ziplock baggie, in the bike all the time, so when the mood hits you, you can pull out a Witness Form, find a local Fire Station, or Police Station, get a starting witness signature, do the ride...collect printed gas receipts along the way, get as finishing witness signature....then send it all in to Sir Kneebone.

    As @kwthom said, doing the ride is only part of the equation. Providing sufficient paperwork proof is the other part of the equation.

    Having been an IBA member now for the past 34 years...I have seen as lot of riders LOSE gas receipts along the way, so keep those receipts in a safe/secure place on the bike, or on your person.
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  13. Rollin'

    Rollin' does it come in black?

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    Or stop at a church and ask a minster to sign the witness form and then get asked attend to the church picnic! :-)

    [​IMG]
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  14. LeMaitre

    LeMaitre Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the war story. It is encouraging to know that things don't always go perfect even for experienced riders like yourself.

    -Mark
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  15. kwthom

    kwthom Retiree apprentice - willing to learn

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    All the great plans can and will go sideways, just like they did with this ride. I was lucky enough to persevere and slug my way to finishing the ride.

    The whole reason I wrote this ride report this way...solve the simple things, and do what you can to prevent complex ones.
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  16. Rollin'

    Rollin' does it come in black?

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    A successful ride with a few extra challenges to make it memorable. Perfect!
    Successful rides with miserable memories are my favorite and the ones I always remember.
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    GAS GUY MILE EATER

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    That's quotable ! ... and getting jotted down in my notebook. Applies to life in general also.
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    Does anybody remember the name of the ride where you ride coast to coast and then back again in 100 hrs? I really want to do it but cannot remember the thread where I saw it on ADV rider
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    You forgot a “C”. Coast to coast to coast!
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