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Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by MaxF, Jan 24, 2011.
You're missing a lot.
Since my last post on this thread,I now have the means but not the health to ride long distance.I can do about 50 miles max before I have to stop.I am now on disability for neuropathy from taking cipro.
Good words here. The longest I've been gone on a moto trip was 42 days and it was awesome, especially after being filtered through years since!
Still, it has been a reoccurring thought of mine to ride my motorcycle to TDF and now, at 61, I have the money and time to do it. While I won't be staying in top of the mark tourist resorts, I have enough cash to do the trip in a modicum of comfort, and to be gone for six months.
To be honest, I think the hardest part will be dealing with homesickness. Around the four week mark it's gonna be strong, regardless of the experiences I'm going to have. I'll be leaving an amazing girlfriend, an elderly Mom, an awesome brother, two great sons with families, and a great place to live. I guess in short, I'll miss the familiarity of life as I've known it for years.
But I realize I'm not getting any younger; I'll shove familiarity aside for an amazing tour! I'll see and experience different cultures, eat strange foods, and see sights from the saddle of my GSA that I could not imagine.
I will do this, and come back in six months a changed man. More enlightened, more in tune with the world outside my cozy borders, and stronger as well.
Of course, on the other hand, I might slip and break my leg crossing the border into Mexico....
"... As I read the posts, I agree that you can do at 20 what you can't do at 59 (although you still think you can). So riding at 20 is a free wheeling fun adventure..."
What??? I wish someone woulda told me sooner!
You have an itch that needs to be scratched and there is usually only one cure. Otherwise, it will eat away at you forever.
The sooner the better, the more money the better, the more time the better.
There really is no magic bullet or secret sauce. Most everyone here makes substantial sacrifices to do their trips. For some people it's worth it, for some people 1 big trip is enough, and for some people it's not worth it. It's nice to find out where you stand as early as possible.
Sooner, better money, and time...well said, Sir.
I think this is a thought provoking thread-it touches on needs, wants, family, children, longing and a host of feelings and thoughts.
Somewhere back in the thread someone said, "Don't have children, for a start." I agree-the family and kids must come first. Our kids deserve our full love and attention, and if one cannot make the sacrifices necessary, he or she should not have them.
I made the choice to have a family. My boys grew up to be responsible, caring, loving parents in their own rights. I felt I was successful.
But now, I am alone. The boys are far away, no wife, and little family. The stars are aligned...if not now, when? If not me, who?
Enough philosophy. I've got some very cool shorty adjustable shifters from Advdesigns to install on Bikeopotamus!`
I for one enjoy being a motorcycle traveling bum. There is great satisfaction in touring on a $500 motorcycle, camping for free on public lands, bathing in creeks, etc.. I wouldn't trade all those years spent motorcycle touring instead of working for a few months of riding from motel to motel in my retirement years. For me touring cheap is part of the fun.
I love it too, Except I do it on a Goldwing. and it was WAY more then 500. I have even slept ON it. Nothing better then riding all day and watching the stars show up while pondering life and the day you just lived. You don't get that in a hotel room.
There are different ways to travel and different people like different things. :)
Personally, I prefer hotels for at least three reasons. First, after riding all day sweating my bum off, I really appreciate a comfortable bet, a good shower, and air conditioning. What can I say... I'm soft. Second, camping alone in the bush can be so isolating, especially if you're on the road for a few months. At hotels at least there is a chance for interesting encounters, especially small hotels. That's where I've met some pretty darn interesting people doing all sorts of things locally. There are only so many subsistence farmers I can gawk at. I've had my fill. And third, I love to try local foods, and living off of ramen and eggs to save money sounds pretty dreadful to me. Trying new flavors and dishes is a lot easier when you're in a populated/hotel/guesthouse/motel area. In fact, part of my accommodations criteria is what is within walking distance. At the end of the day, I leave my stuff in the hotel and I like to get out there, walk around, see what I run into.
Sure, I'll sleep by the side of the road if I have to, not not day in and day out. Things might be different if I wasn't usually traveling alone... not sure... And don't get me wrong, I like the things you listed. I like camping. I like washing in a creek. But do I want to do it every day for a few months? No... sleeping in 100 degree tent after sweating all day in 100 degree heat is something I might do occasionally, not all the time.
You're actually very lucky that this is your preferred way to do moto trips. I wish I was like that as it would save me a lot of money. But I tried different things and have a general idea of what I find enjoyable and what I find dreadful... I hope this makes sense.
There is a process of discovery for doing these trips. We all figure out what we like. Each one of us has things we would rather not live without, and things we don't mind. This is why the "tips and tricks and strategies" are mostly worthless. Each person needs to go on some smaller trips and experiment to see what works for them. That is the only way to figure things out.
You know the ADV in advrider stands for adventure right?
Adventure means different things for different people, we are all not made the same as I'm very gratefull of....can you just imagine if we all did it your way(I personally do) there wouldn't be a clean creek to bath in anywhere!...lol. So, if they want to hotel/motel or resort it...let them....it leaves the wilds for us who like to experience it without them being crowded.
To each their own....don't ruin it for the rest of us.....someone has to keep those hotels/motels alive for the one time we may want to use them....damn man think ahead for a bit here....now, get off my little piece of heaven and find your own patch to sleep on.......augh!.....lol. You're blocking my view of the stars!!
Riding all day in hot weather then trying to sleep in a tent when it's hot and humid would not be fun, but I live and ride in the western US and Canada where I can almost always camp where nights are cool. Also I always camp on public land, legally, where no one will bother me except maybe a raccoon or bear. There are still plenty of people to meet along the way. I can imagine that living and riding in the eastern US would be quite a different experience, and one that doesn't interest me.
My first Alaska trip was 35 years ago and I remember it costing me around $500 total, camping exclusively. There were many days of riding and camping in the rain, and my rain gear wasn't all that effective back then. Next month I'll be heading off for 10 weeks on my 32 year old bike to Alaska and exploring the northwest as cheaply as possible. Hope my $8.95 Harbor Freight rain gear holds up.
The one trend I have noticed on my travels, was that the guys on the cheap bikes seem less in a hurry home than the riders on the more $$ models.
Example, you roll up to a guy on a KLR and he's not planning on going anywhere, you meet a guy on a GSA and he's racing down to wherever and then racing back home.
If you have a GSA, sell it, buy a cheapo, fix her up, take off and whether you like it or not, fact is, you have done it.
more likely they guys riding GSA's have too many other things going on, hence the low-drag lifestyle.
This is awesome. I'm with this guy. Even on his joke part !
People who take long trips don't have careers.
Or they work online
Or the work seasonally (fisherman, oil worker etc.)
Or they are retired
Or the saved up a ton and quit a job
-online - yes w/ Butler Maps plus I have a few other $ maker gigs.
-seasonally - just finished up professional tour directing school. a PTD is the person leading a group on a bus, train or cruise ship. you work contractually for 7-14 typically per tour. you pick and choose when you work OR don't. you bring in between $300-400 a day plus all your living expenses are paid when you work. yes you have to deal with people, but so with any job. when you're done tour it's over and the people are gone however. you won't get these jobs w/o the school and it takes a solid year to get established but I now those who make $10k a month in season for a few months (remember your living is paid for when working too) and then take off the rest. work in the summer in the US and live for cheap south of the border in the winter. travel is your work and then travel even more.
speaking of travel is your work...
take jon beck http://blog.motorrad-adventure.com/
he is a moto photographer so he travels, shots and rides.
joe & flor do the same except for video
same with sterling noren
if your stuck in that same over and over 9-5, 2 weeks off a year, work mentality...then that's what you'll get.
This, lol. My wife and I toured for a few years, and then the boy came along after 12 years of great two-up riding, and she said "one of us has to stay alive, I'm getting off." I did, too, mostly...now that he is in college, and my wife could scraped up a younger guy in a minute, lol (56), I'm back to slinging leg, but I've found I'm kind of bored with the long trips, so I am looking for a smaller bike and want to re-explore my young days when I was just getting into some off-road, and then a dude got squished in my front yard one night and my mom flipped completely out. I had to wait until I was married and starting on that long slide before I could re-indulge, lol. Anyway, find like-minded friends, have fun and all that. I was just about ready to hang up the bike and get a Jeep because my wife loves 4X4...and then I stumbled into Romanouski's trip. Curse you, Romanouskiiiiii!! (screams at the heavens) :huh
It is always about choices...I'm digging the responses. For me, my choice was to have a family. As the boys got older, I had more chances to ride and in the past 14 years I've ridden about 300K miles.
I did my share of sleeping in the dirt, eating noodles and camping in the fields. That got old after a few years, so now I prefer nice campsites with hot water and/or small, family motels. Camping and the mom and pop places give me a chance to meet interesting people, which to me, is the best part of traveling.
I retired from education as a school principal and now have all the time I need to ride. It's been the best of all possible worlds-a great profession, wonderful co-workers and friends, some time (not much) in the summer for riding, and now the time and money to do it the way I want to.
I hope you all achieve your riding dreams, no matter how you do it.
Ps-All the GSA guys are rushing around...what??
I may jump the boat and just do this In a few years.
In 2015, just ride North America for 1 year.