Long term KLX250S review

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by bmwhd, Dec 2, 2005.

  1. doxbike

    doxbike Been here awhile

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    I've got one of Soupy's lowering links on y Tiger 800XC and the adjustable kickstand. Only problem with the kick stand, it's got a miniscule foot that I had to have a plate welded on-should had a bigger footprint from the factory!!!

  2. rickypanecatyl

    rickypanecatyl SE Asia adventure tours

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    For a long time I've been on a quest to find the best motorcycle lighting out there. Most of the popular off road lighting out there I wont name is complete junk - powerful LEDs or HID's with absolutely no thought going into the reflector/projector/beam shape and intensity.

    I recently tried out some lights that were excellent in regards to beam shape, intensity etc BUT they were complete junk as far as quality goes. The cut off shield failed the first day and then only worked intermitantly after that. The ballast failed pretty quickly as well probably from the vibrations.
    However I mention the light as the beam was so good it'd be worth it for someone to find a way to make it work!

    Here's the finished light mounted in my OEM headlight - none too pretty! :)
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    The projector is quite a bit longer than the stock light so I had to move everything out about an inch. (For those who don't recognize my dash I have the 2008 KLX250 which wasn't sold in the US; it has the same dash as the KLX450.)
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    This probably wasn't very smart of me but I had the 50watt ballast mounted just under the acerbis 3.7 gallon tank. That was as far away as it could be with the cable that came with the kit.
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    I did a horrible job trying to take pictures of the beam; I know to do a one to one comparison you need to know how to manually use the camera and lock in the settings. In these comparison pictures I'm comparing the stock KTM 690R light to the morimoto. The stock 690R is horrible - worse than the KLX250. (The 690E is pretty darn good actually.) In both these pictures the camera makes both pictures much darker than they were in reality - the KTM's light is bad but the picture makes it look non existant.

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    Stock KTM690R

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    Finally in the middle is a flashlight I commonly carry called the Thrunite scorpion. It's been tested in a Integrating Sphere to put out 700 "Out the front" lumens. It has an XML U2 in it driven at 2.5 amps. As you can see it blows away the KTM light but doesn't touch the HID.

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  3. IDRIDR

    IDRIDR Take me to the River

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    Ricky -
    Turn the Stock KTM light on before taking the pic. We can't see anything!

    Way to go on the ingenuity :clap
  4. rickypanecatyl

    rickypanecatyl SE Asia adventure tours

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    I just added a pic of a known 700 out the front lumen flashlight to give some perspective to my horrible camera and photography skills.

    It's a camera issue... I need to use my wife's camera to get some real shots but she hasn't been very generous with me taking it out as I seem to always break the drop proof/waterproof models.
  5. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Hey, where is the cheapest place right now to get the EBC Dirt Racer clutch that everybody is using with the 351 kit? And the Barnett springs to go with it?

    Thanks!

    Rob
  6. taranaki

    taranaki Mister Natural

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    I'm leaning to the mega bomb - I think it'll be a little quieter for stealth riding.

    - how hard is the install?

    - does it come with a guard or is contact (ouch!@#%^) an issue?
  7. mel brooks

    mel brooks Dirt Chick

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    I just got mine from JC Motors. It was 54.70 but they kinda burn you on the shipping, it was 12.25. Best price I could find. This was in the last couple of weeks.

    http://www.jcmotors.com/
  8. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Thanks!

    Do you recall what the part number was on it? And what about the Barnett springs?

    Rob
  9. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Nevermind; I found the p/n on that site and Googled it... got it through Amazon.com for $49.xx and then looked up the p/n on the springs and found them for $20.xx. Both on the way now.

    Thanks again!

    Rob
  10. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    But wait, there's more! :)

    Which clutch cover gasket do I need? I see a smaller one for $10 and a big one for $25.

    Rob
  11. mel brooks

    mel brooks Dirt Chick

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    I didn't replace the clutch cover gasket. It was in excellent shape.

    If you're careful, you probably won't need to. THe KLX has the separate clutch cover (unlike my Sherpa) where you just pull the clutch cover itself off, not the entire side cover.
  12. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Thanks! I guess since the bike is still pretty new, they might be salvageable. Since I have time (while waiting on the head to come back) I can order them only if I need them.

    Meanwhile... is the Kreiger Manual Cam Chain Tensioner only available directly from the guy who makes it? I emailed him last night about ordering one and have yet to hear back.

    Rob
  13. 250senuf

    250senuf Long timer

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    Patience Grasshopper, he's making those as a sideline while having a job. :D He also has a motorcycle that needs to be ridden.

    And yes, direct from the maker only.
  14. zippets

    zippets WilD&CrAzY

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    i went with the mega bomb and the Q4 i also purchased the Quiet insert from dennis kirk to put on the pipe it was a 15 minute job

    with this set up im at 86db for the sound it is not much louder then stock

    the bulg is way forward to me i don't see an issue unless the bike falls on you on that side

    i allready decided to fall to the left when possible :p
  15. MrHighbeam

    MrHighbeam Adventurer

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    I installed a trailtech vapor with dash several weeks ago. I race enduros with my klx and needed an adjustable tripmeter. The whole kit was only 130$ or so and everything works except the water temperature meter which I have chosen to not install at this time.

    The unit is a bargain and is very dependable. I have used trailtech computers in the past and they last.

    I hooked up all the sensors so I have indicators for blinkers, neutral, hibeam, and overtemp. Tach works great, adjustable odo and speedo work great too.

    Nice to know that the speedometer is 100% accurate.
  16. zippets

    zippets WilD&CrAzY

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  17. dmcc67

    dmcc67 Adventurer

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    I've tried searching this without success....

    Anyone want to report their average MPG after going to the 351cc?
    I'm considering the big bore sometime this year.

    I commute on my 250, and I am probably wringing it out, but I only get 50mpg average. This is my second KLX250s, my first one got 58mpg average, day in and day out. Both 06's. Go figure.
  18. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Have you jetted the bike yet? When I got my 2010, I was unimpressed by the mileage. It wasn't until I put a Dynojet kit in it that the milage went UP noticeably... from 50-ish like you're getting now, into the mid 60's.

    If you wring it out on the highway, it's gonna pretty much suck no matter what, but for the slower roads and trails, it'll be quite good.

    I'd like to hear from people on 351 mpg too since I'm ordering my kit this weekend. Bill Blue is in Colorado til Monday so I haven't been a rush to fire up Paypal.

    Rob
  19. dmcc67

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    Just jetted yesterday, went with 125 main, 40 pilot, air screw 2.5 turns, drilled slide, installed adjustable needle clip 2 from top(don't have the number with me, but these were all the Kawasaki parts listed on this forum), air box mods, new air filter. Also put a 1/2 hole in the silencer baffle. It runs out a little better, not an impressive difference though. Haven't checked the mileage with mods yet, keeping my fingers crossed.

    Funny thing is, I never jetted my first bike. It got 58 when new, and then I modified a KLX300 silencer to work with the stock header, and it still got 58. It was definitely lean, but ran ok.

    I'm hoping for a big torque gain with the 351 so it'll pull 6th easier.

    FWIW, this one seems to get 50 even when I baby it. I'm not too concerned, but I'm hoping it stays at 50 or even gets better with the 351.
  20. Earthscape

    Earthscape Have ya got a helmut?

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    When new my 07 would get in the mid to upper 50s for MPG (high was 58). I was very disappointed with that. I put the 351 on with only ~750 miles. With the number of mods I have done, it's pretty much impossible to say what has impacted mileage and what hasn't. Now I typically get around 65+ MPG (high was 74). I can say for sure that the 351 itself isn't a complete MPG killer - getting jetted with intake and exhaust properly sorted probably has a far bigger impact. The one mod I have done where I did notice an immediate and sustained increase in MPG was the 15 tooth countershaft sprocket. The 351 has no issues pulling 6th gear with the 15 tooth. Others on this thread and elsewhere have said it a thousand times and I couldn't agree more, the 351 makes it a completely different bike. The increase in raw power numbers doesn't really tell the story, because there is such a large increase in where the usable power is available in the RPM range.