Looking for other Suzuki XF650 Freewind Riders

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by stanchik, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. ShadyRascal

    ShadyRascal Master of None

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    God damn it that pisses me off we didn't get that bike in the US

    I wonder if the frames the same as a DR, and a guy can buy the seat/bodywork on ebay and make one?
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  2. macrae85

    macrae85 Been here awhile

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    Go onto eBay.co.uk or eBay.de and you will see a frame stripped bare.The main frame is similar apart
    from a mounting point for the gas tank behind the headstock!Same size of tank as a IMS for the DR650SE.
    Forks similar size,DR650 hubs,300mm disc on the R.H.S. instead of left.Biggest difference is the twin carb
    head-CDI/ECU totally different!
    From what i can see,a lot of the aftermarket parts will fit,my EBC 320mm disc will be going on shortly,i need a caliper spacer made for the extra 20mm in size.Footpegs,Fastway,Pivot pegz,etc look like a fit.FMF header pipe,
    same.Rigor Racing fork valves,i'm just about to compare fork,one of the few DR650 bits i have here,my bikes are
    in AZ,USA.
    Huge array of bits on the German eBay,and the likes of Hepco Becker do engine bars and alu. box rails.Any sump
    guard should fit,the factory one looks horrid.
    Overall,it's a DR650 with clothes on,19" wheel of course.Nice big comfy seat and a luggage rack as standard.I'd go as far as to say,it would be a better bike for me to go to Argentina on than my DR,but i wont be shipping it out.
    There is a brand new one still for sale in Yorkshire,England for 4999GBP(4166GBP export outside the E.U. price!).
    Anything else i discover,i'll post it on here!
    Great bike,love it!
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  3. Bronco638

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  4. macrae85

    macrae85 Been here awhile

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    The 320mm disc change.....now to get the caliper relocation bracket made - 10mm difference!

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  5. macrae85

    macrae85 Been here awhile

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    S.W.Motech centre stand fitted,now for the exhaust modification-Phase 1
    a temp. set up until my FMF 'big bore' DR650 header pipe arrives later!
    Hope those interested can see the similarities between XF650 and the
    DR650 frames!

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  6. XF650

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    I'm not sure what all the differences are between the DR & XF frames but obvious ones are wheel base, steering rake & ground clearence. Also the XF head & twin carbs won't fit into the DR frame, otherwise the motors are the same.

    The std sump guard on my XF has done a bloody good job of protecting the engine & I wouldn't ride without it, as evident by the dents & garks in it. It also helps protect the oil filter housing if ya drop the bike.

    Opening up the air box lid & Re-jetting has helped performance but have yet to try a different pipe.

    To get clearence for aftermarket bars I removed the tank fairings, as long as ya don't mind the naked look...
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  7. macrae85

    macrae85 Been here awhile

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    What jetting setting are you on.......i've made up a pipe,away for fitting tomorrow.
    On 'bar clearence',i'm going to machine down the heads on an M12 bolt an raise
    my bars another 10mm-just as a personal preference!
    See you're from Canterbury,i'm based in Hororata during our 'northern winters'! :)
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  8. macrae85

    macrae85 Been here awhile

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    The German Postman came again today.......an MRA 'Touring Screen'!
    As some may know i'm not a screen guy,but for a looks thing,the standard
    size just doesn't look right - it'll protect the GPS more!

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  9. XF650

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    Roger knows the jetting & he's done opposite to you with his screen:http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/152124-Freewilly-starting-to-look-the-part
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  10. macrae85

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    Cant access that,and there's nothing about jetting.115's are standard,i'm at 125's and the needles fully lifted,but as i wont get time to thoroughly test it before i depart for Morocco,but it's running a lot better in the garage.No doubt i'll know soon enough.It's only above 5000RPM that was affected,so it's not an over worry!
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  11. moto rrad

    moto rrad ADV n00b

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    Here's my shiny xf650 purchased about 6 months ago.:evil
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    This winter she'll receive some upgrades. Looking for a bit more oomphh! Where would I find a full exhaust system for the bike? A dr650 spec header will fit?

    Will also be making it a bit more offroad worthy. She will yet become the adventurer she was destined to be!

    stu - in germany
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  12. macrae85

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    Get yourself a FMF 'bigbore',there's a huge weld restricting the exhaust at the head there!
    Any silencer,and get someone like Fuel Exhausts in Kendal (nice cans there too!) to make
    you a mid.pipe.With 'race can' and currently standard header,#125 main jets(115 std),lift the needles
    2 knotches,the bottom ones,and it runs perfect.......just done 1000miles,all heats and elevations
    great,spot on! Might be a while before my bike is back home,so the FMF purchase will have to wait,
    there is a smaller bore pipe on eBay.de for Freewind in stainless,but know nothing about them!
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    Single mirror on the left for Spain/Morocco........so i dont forget which way the traffic flows! :)
    Renthal 'Fatbars' are a worth while conversion,though you need some machining of longer mounting
    bolts(M12) and around 20mm spacers to clear the fuel tank!(will show later!).
    Pipe has cost me 70GBP to date,using a FMF can off a WR450 Yamaha that was free,but squashed,
    a mid link pipe,a sleeve and band from Fuel Exhausts.
    MRA screen........S W Motech stand.......braided line i made myself.......few other little bits,and as said
    earlier,i wanted more of a 'trail bike' look by getting shot of that horrible sump guard(one from the USA to
    come) and that rear wheel shield thingy.There's a caliper protector going where the mounts are later! Seat's
    to go to France once home to get re-shaped......flat,unlike 2 stage at present!
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  13. ferritt

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    I've recently bought one as a non runner, it had been stood for 2 years or so. I got it running easily enough but on my first ride discovered a nasty 3rd gear whine. I've read all the relevant posts on here and to be honest i'm unsure whether its safe to just ignore the whine and ride it. So far i've fitted heated grips and am just in the process of doing the gsxr 1000 exhaust swap. The new one for sale in yorkshire, uk, is near me and i had a look at it a couple of weeks ago, its a 2003 bike but unused.
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  14. moto rrad

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    Hey somebody does read this thread! :D

    I've took a look into some exhaust options.. and options are limited. I assume there is a slight gain to be made by opening up airbox / jetting / full exhaust. Haven't found any hard info as to if this is actually worth it or not. Also is the power/ fuel economy trade off worth it? I plan on doing longer rides with the bike and do not want to sacrifice any economy.

    Anywho after a re-think I'll start with some other things first:

    -Wirth (or Wilbers) Progressive fork springs. The front end at the moment is very stiff and harsh over sharp bumps. Believe the previous owner over filled the fork oil.

    -Heavier spring on the rear shock (I think Wilbers makes one). I'm not a heavy guy (about 175 pounds in gear) but the rear, in contrast with the front end, is wayyy to soft. Even with the preload and compression dampening cranked up.

    - steel braided front brake line. The single front disk is adequate, but lacking feel. Some braided lines should help with braking feel. Also need to replace the pads, because when the front brake get hot it turns into more of an on/off device.. hard to modulate.

    - Seat.. is fairly comfy but I want to sit a bit higher up. There are a few replacement seat options I've seen on the web.. but none I like the look of. Will probably take the seat to an custom seat maker and get it modified for the same price or less than that of a replacement seat. I want it a little higher (ease the knee bend angle) and also to make it easier to move around. I hate the stuck in the rut seating position. Also change the material.. i find I stick to the stock seat, difficult to slide a cheek off when going into a corner.

    - Handlebars - either get some new bars and /or some risers on there. Want the bars higher and more forward. Also throw some hand guards of some sort on there!

    I think that's it! I want to make the bike into a comfy adventure bike. I don't commute on it, and most of the roads in the close vicinity of where I live are congested and boring. Will be mostly using it for overnight weekend trips and extended travel at every chance. This is my first dual-sporty bike and I've never really ridden off road before with the exception of a few gravel roads. There is definitively better sport touring options out there.. but I realllllly want the possibility to do light off road exploring. So that is what made me go for the freewind. The on road manners I find quite good. Obviously not a bike for motorway droning, but who wants to do that anyway. A few more ponies would really light my fire. We'll see what we can do!

    Last thing, a question for you guys. The bike WILL NOT idle when it's cold. I have to run with choke on for about 15 minutes because otherwise every time I come to a stop the rpm's drop and it kills it's self. After 15 - 20 min of riding, the bike will be fully warmed up, and there is no further problems.. idles perfectly. What do ya think.. dirty carbs? Pilot jet? I do all my own maintenance .. but have never torn into a carb. That is where my knowledge ends.
    I have run a few cans of fuel system cleaner through it, with no affect!

    thanks for reading my novel,
    cheers, stu :freaky
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  15. Hechicero

    Hechicero n00b

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    What different do you feel when you use thiss front wheel?
    How FW is driving in city and in "mood"?
    Thank for your future answer! :)
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  16. furylow

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    Hello everybody!
    New to the xf650 family, looking for some mods. I need a taller seat, and a taller screen also. Can anybodody help me?


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  17. eakins

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    i'd say you can easily modify a dr650 to get the same effect with a mini screen and larger tank plus a rear rack, but yes the US gets shafted on alot of useful bikes that exist in other markets. the freewind is very much in the same category as the original BMW 650 funduro. bmw of course evolved that bike of the years and suzuki has done nothing.

    anyone know? was the DR650 available in places the Freewind was sold or was it just the Freewind?
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  18. furylow

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    Yes, at least in Spain they were sold the dr650 and the xf650 at the same time.

    Xf650 was the response to aprilia pegaso and bmw f650 lightweight, all rounder bikes
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  19. grki

    grki n00b

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    Hello
    With my XF650 in Italy Toscana in 2010

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    Greetings from Slovenia
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  20. pcfpatrol

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    Have recently purchased a 1997 Freewind for my youngest daughter.
    She went on her first ride a couple of weeks ago.:clap

    I hope the picture worls as I haven't posted one on here fro a while.
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