Looking for travel companion answers?

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by Elad, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. Meriwether

    Meriwether Following big footprints.

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    Hi Biddles,
    Yes, I like being in my own space, this group ride is not my thing, but to each their own. The last thing I want is to have someone up my clacker or visa versa. A single riding companion is OK for companionship, but even then I want my own space. Freedom to stop whenever, wherever I want, and have an agreed meeting point down the road.
    That's another quality to be added to the list of the ideal riding partner: self sufficiency.
    Cheers,
    Mark
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  2. Elad

    Elad What oil is best in my motorbike?

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    Self sufficient is a important quality.

    I have learned to pack for 30 days on the bike less than 40lbs of luggage.

    Camping gear, stove, chair, coffee maker and clothes for the duration, weekly stop for food supply.

    The part about group riding, I am experienced in close formation riding I spent years riding with a large national 3piece MC we usually rode side by side with less than a bike gap at all speeds. Did you read the above post about MSF instructor? To become a MSF coach is actually pretty hard.

    Don't take my original post the wrong way I can afford my own adventures. I am in the early stages of planning a TAT ride next fall.
    Well when I say planning I really mean I am going to do it and will wait until August to start specific plans. I am a free of planned stop traveler. Usually go until I'm ready to stop and figure it out then kinda fellow.
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  3. BryceB

    BryceB It's OK, we know the Mayor!

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    Like someone else said... look for an organized tour group to go on if you don't have any riding buddies (or maybe just none that can do this trip). maybe you could find some like minded travelers on one of these tours and make your own trips afterwards.
    Even with good friends, relations will get strained at some point and with a stranger, the possibilities of the 2 of you not getting along go way up.
    You need to ride a good bit with folks before setting off on a long journey. Start off with a few day rides, then some over nighters before setting off on your "trip of a lifetime" that turns into a trip through Hell.

    Here's a cautionary tail that the OP described as a bad divorce story when he and another joined up to do the TAT with little experience riding together and finding out that they didn't mesh.
    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2017-tat-ride-smarter-not-harder.1249057/
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  4. Meriwether

    Meriwether Following big footprints.

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    I was thinking of mental self sufficiency, as in being able to paddle your own canoe, prompted by that 'not leaving a man's behind' chap.
    Regards, Mark.
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  5. RidewithAB

    RidewithAB Just Ride!

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    I totally get what Elad is asking. I rode to Prudhoe Bay solo and had an awesome trip. Link to my ride report:

    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/alaska-bound-no-excuses-just-ride.1228124/


    Next, I want to go to Cabo San Lucas in Baja, but feel that for safety reasons and possible unforeseen issues, it would be nice to have another rider so we can watch out for each other. I was fortunate to do very well financially and have plenty of money, but most of my really good friends cannot afford to take a 2-3 week trip and spend hotel money on top of that. (BTW, I would hire out 2 rooms, I like my space)

    So am I buying friendship? NO and its not my point, I am enabling someone who has fewer resources to take a great trip, while simultaneously enabling me to enjoy my trip without being concerned for my safety.

    I have to say that finding such an individual is a challenge, and I do agree that riding styles and capabilities are the big if. My 2 cents. Cheers.
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  6. Elad

    Elad What oil is best in my motorbike?

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    @RidewithAB

    Exactly my reasoning for asking and nail on head point
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  7. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Colleen and James have gone on many rides with a fellow rider that would not camp. He said if we let him tag along with us he will pay our hotel. We've had about a half dozen rides with him and all really good. Fortunately he likes to ride fast and is a safe fast.
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  8. Elad

    Elad What oil is best in my motorbike?

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    If anyone is interested in meeting or talking about a trip let me know, message me and I will give you my number. Look through my posts on advrider and you can probably learn a little about me good and bad.
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  9. scratchypants

    scratchypants Loathes the impolite

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    I've been on trips with acquaintances that are otherwise pleasant to be around, but put them in a road-trip situation and it's Mr. Hyde. No deadline or specific place to be at the end of the day, but would go off the deep end if we missed a planned junction/exit; arguments regarding cost of lunch/type of restaurant; hotel room pricing; panic about losing time/stopping too frequently. No thanks - I like to spend a few minutes in the morning looking at a map and getting a general idea of where I'm going; stop when I'm sore/hungry/need to pee; and hit whatever hotel/campsite whenever I feel I've had enough for the day. I won't go out of my way to be an asshole, but if I'm on vacation I'm going to be a little selfish.
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  10. GAGator64

    GAGator64 n00b

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    Back in June, I joined 2 friends for a 3 week, 8000 mi trip from GA to MN then west to Mt. Rainier, south to Moab then back with many other stops in-between. I have ridden with these guys on/off for 10 years so we knew each others style. Motels/gas stops were pre-arranged cause we needed a roll-away bed. Motels costs to be split 3 ways and food, fuel, etc was on each. I should preface to indicate most of my ridding is solo. The first few days were okay, then I began to want to break away for awhile and do my own thing. Split up in Leeds, SD for a few days while they headed towards Rainier and I toured the area and met up in Cody where I split to tour Yellowstone which was not on the itinerary. Met back up and travelled to Moab, UT, and on to CO. We dealt with days of rain, sleet, cold (30's), heat (105), & high winds. After a couple of days and some disagreements, I split to travel home alone. The next month, met up with the guys in Maggie Valley and few words were spoken.
    They stuck with the planned trip and I wanted to venture by myself. About 1/3 of the trip was travelled solo. The reason for writing this is to say that even friends don't always agree and get along after a few days. I'm sure we'll be okay when we meet up again. For the OP, any trip you take and have others ride, expect some days may not go according to plan. Just enjoy the time on the road.
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  11. HeidiHo

    HeidiHo Old, Bold, Still Riding

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    Elad, I totally get your OP, and understand what it is you are seeking info on. Several of the folks here have addressed those issues, but I will add one more idea:

    I have been to Alaska many times as a solo rider, and a couple times with a riding partner. Knowing well in advance that I will be riding up to Alaska again next year, and Inuvik, and Tuktoyaktuk, and to Prudhoe Bay/Deadhorse.....I started looking for some riding partners here on ADVRider.

    One way to find one was.....find a rider that is doing a shorter ride this year, introduce yourself to that rider, ask if you can tag along, and get to know one another. I did this by finding a rider that was going to Hyder, Alaska...which I have been to a few times, and asked if I could ride along. I told him my plans in advance...get to know one another, see if we "fit", and hope that we can do a longer ride together next year, up to and all around Alaska/Yukon, etc.

    it worked...and I now have a new friend, and good riding partner.

    I also understand the "paying" for some of their expenses. Like a few others here, I am not hurting for money, retired when I was 47, which was 16 years ago, and I know not all adventure riders can easily afford 4 weeks away from home, or 6 months, or a full year, etc. Offering to "assist" a rider is not giving the money away, it is helping a fellow rider, like that the TUCKERS experienced. They can easily pay for their own hotel rooms, but the rider that went with them made a valid offer, and it worked out for all of them.

    The guy that I rode along with (I led the ride 93.14159% of the way), he covered all his own expenses, as this was HIS originally planned ride. I was the tag along, and it worked out well.

    Search the different threads on here, look for riders within 1000 miles of you, that are taking more local rides, meaning rides that are 500 to 2000 miles, and see if you can hook up with them to check one another out, for a good fit.
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  12. ToothDocJay

    ToothDocJay Been here awhile

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    Bit of an aside here but a Friend showed me this genius little App for sharing costs on a ride;

    https://www.splitwise.com/


    If you start using if from the getgo it makes sharing expenses on the road so simple to keep track of.

    As for riding, I like riding in a group but we have very loose rules. Usually it's 2-4 riders that all know each other and we don't have expectations of anyone other than "get along".

    One guy in the group likes to ride at the back, likes to stop and have a snooze on picnic tables, and occasionally we split up and he catches up with us. No problem.

    Over time we each kind of adopt a role in the group. Some guys set a pace, others baby-sit, one guy always raced ahead and found accommodations, etc.

    We get together at dinner and breakfast and we make our plans for the day and away we go. If someone wants to do something else, we always try to make it happen even if we split up.

    That said, it takes the right "mix" of people for something to work. We've had a few rides where there was a square peg trying to fit a round hole and it never got messy, everyone just realized in the end that they weren't a good match and we carried on.

    While I appreciate the rationale for a couple of you saying that paying for a ride partner gives you the company while helping someone of lesser means along, it doesn't mean you will gel as riding partners. The only way to know that is to do a multi-day ride and decide afterwards if you'd do it again.

    As a cautionary tale read this thread especially the 3 pages or so to see how riding with a partner can derail (that way at least something good can come of it);

    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2017-tat-ride-smarter-not-harder.1249057/page-13
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  13. ckjj888

    ckjj888 Been here awhile

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  14. RT66AZ

    RT66AZ Been here awhile

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    Wow if I had to pay a total stranger to ride with me I would:
    A: Ride alone
    B: Consider why I had to buy friends



    My answer is "A"

    Note If a friend is a bit short I'll help out, but not everytime, or even more than once....that's called being used.
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  15. MJS

    MJS Long timer

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    My $.02 as someone who rides alone or with spouse and/ or friends and also leads tours and private groups. I understand that most riders are fine doing their own trips. However some riders don't want to ride alone for various reasons (security, time constraints, spousal concerns, planning etc).

    When I am being paid it is not my ride. The person(s) that are footing the bill are my clients. While I may have a route or plan in mind I am going to alter my plan as needed or requested by the customer. It is their trip and my job is to help them get the most out of it. I consider it my responsibility to watch out for them and assist them as needed. It is also my responsibility to be friendly to them even if we are not friends. Fortunately, while there have been a few difficult clients I have never had to deal with a real asshole so not had any problems there. I would expect nothing less if I was the one paying the bill.
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