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  1. vik

    vik Adventurer

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    Hi Phil,


    I want to install the Mapsource software on my Palm OS5

    Is it possible to get a Mapsource version for the Palm
    I want to edit and make maps on my handheld
    It has the processing power and resolution
    Is there any version of mapsource for Palm handhelds


    I have the Zumo CD for Xp
    Is there anything i can do to get the Palm version ?

    Thanks again for your help
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  2. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    From Adsinger's thread - http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191771

    How to Uninstall Reinstall or Remove Mapsource



    Heard From Garmin

    <HR style="COLOR: #575757" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I finally got a response from GarminTS. I must say it is very good, comprehensive, yet also comprehendable. Nice work. I'm posting here for future seachers to see exactly how Garmin recommends correcting the errors I had.

    alan.

    Here it is:

    Thank you for contacting GARMIN International. I would be happy to help you
    with this!

    My recommendation is to uninstall the software and then reinstall to a
    separate destination directory if needed. I also recommend going into the
    registry and deleting the GARMIN key in the registry.

    1. Go to the start menu in windows

    2. Select the settings and then select the control panel.

    3. In the control panel double click on the icon for ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS.

    4. Select MapSource in the uninstall window. The software will ask to if you
    wish to uninstall all the components, answer YES to this option.

    5. Select the Start key to the run option. In the run window type in <
    regedit > and enter. In the registry editor, you need to be very careful and
    please follow these steps precisely.

    a. Select the (+) next to the folder stating HKEY_CURRENT_USER

    b. In this view select the (+) next to SOFTWARE, when you click on this it
    will open your registry further.

    c. In the SOFTWARE view you will see a series of folders, one will be
    GARMIN. Highlight the word GARMIN and press the delete key. It will ask for
    confirmation of deletion. Make sure that the word GARMIN is the only key
    highlighted. Press on the (-) signs to contract the expansion.

    d. Select the (+) next to the folder stating HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

    e. In this view select the (+) next to SOFTWARE, when you click on this it
    will open your registry further.

    f. In the SOFTWARE view you will see a series of folders, one will be
    GARMIN. Highlight the word GARMIN and press the delete key. It will ask for
    confirmation of deletion. Make sure that the word GARMIN is the only key
    highlighted. Press on the (-) signs to contract the expansion.

    6. Shut down your system as normal and then let the system set for about 30
    seconds and then start up your computer.

    7. Reinstall the software. It will display the destination folder, if the
    setting is anything other than c:\garmin, click on the browse option and
    type it in. You will get a message "This folder does not exist" but the
    option to create it will follow. Select OK.

    8. Reboot after finishing your installation allowing the software to rest in
    the destination folder.

    9. After you reinstall, I recommend that you upgrade your operating software
    to the latest version of the MapSource operating system.

    Following are the steps to update MapSource on your computer as well as the
    link to the GARMIN download site:

    http://www.garmin.com/support/mappingsw.jsp

    Following are the steps to update MapSource on your computer as well as the
    link to the GARMIN download site:
    <<HTTP: www.garmin.com support mappingsw.jsp>>
    Click on MapSource from the list. Please click on the word MapSource and you
    will be taken to a Download page.
    The Download page will have the word download on the screen. Once you click
    on this it will begin trying to download the file. Please save it to the
    DESKTOP. Once you have completed downloading the upgrade you will need to
    run the program.

    Please make sure you have closed out the MapSource program. If it is running
    the update will not work correctly.
    The file should be on your desktop. Then please double-click on the file and
    the program will begin to install on to your computer.

    Once it is completed you can go back and check by going into MapSource and
    then click on the help and then the about MapSource.

    Please make sure you have closed out the MapSource program. If it is running
    the update will not work correctly.

    The file should be on your desktop. Then please double-click on the file and
    the program will begin to install on to your computer.

    Once it is completed you can go back and check by going into MapSource and
    then click on the help and then the about MapSource.

    ** NOTE... to check the version of Map Source you are running or to verify
    the update was complete...in Map Source, click on HELP and ABOUT MAP SOURCE,
    this will display the version below the Map Source title. **

    I would also recommend downloading a new copy of the Map Source manual from
    our website at -->> http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/manual.html.
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  3. Tollster

    Tollster Jammer Jay

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    We are all dumb and look for unlawfull carnal knowledge with you our great toothless one.
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  4. freeflow

    freeflow get in or go in

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    :lol3 n00b to street gps units....

    curious...I am impressed with the North America City Navigator V8 NT I installed into my new 60cx yesterday...amazing...

    anyway...I am just not seeing the answers I seek...can I change the map sets as many times as I want into the unit?....I have a 1 GB card and all 61 arear = 937.5 MB, but I want to leave some card for tracks....

    so can I edit the map sets as often as I like depending on what rgion of the country I plan to travel?...

    I loaded the entire set intp my PC....is the unlock code done now?...can I load it into another PC?

    can I tranfer this data to 2 or 3 GPS units?....can I swap the card from one GPS unit to the other and will it work fine?..

    how many questions do I get ?....:lol3

    thanks....Jeff
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  5. pckopp

    pckopp Aged Adventurer

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    Yes, you can go back to MapSource on your PC and create a new map set with only the map segments you want. Then load those to your GPS. You can even load map sets from other map programs like Topo or US Rec. Lakes. You just have to load all the map data at once. You can't add or delete.

    Yes, you can install your software on as many PCs as you like.

    No to both questions. The UNLOCK code is what connects your copy of City Nav to that one GPS. You can get a second UNLOCK code from Garmin for a second GPS, but I've not heard of getting one for a third. Two is the normal limit. If you moved the data card to another GPS, the map data would not be available.

    Apparently, you haven't run out yet. :lol3
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  6. freeflow

    freeflow get in or go in

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    thanks alot for all your help here......really....shortens the learning curve...:thumb
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  7. Mapit

    Mapit Making Maps is what I do.

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    Fortunitly for all of us, no matter what receiver or projection you use there is going to be a new Geoid produced to reproject the earths surface. It's due to be available in the next month or two. Not sure what it's going to be called but you will know it when you see it. It's about time! There is just too much junk and unrealiable projections to choose from. I see the new Geoid to improve accuracy by at leat 5-7 meters over NAD27, WGS83 or 86. The National Map will be reprojecting it's data using the new projection.
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  8. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    Phil I thanks you so much for making this posting.


    Hopefully is going to keep things a lot cleaner and organize, so important questions can be ask and even better answers can be reach.

    good for you and for the rest of us:feelgood
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  9. GSGIRL

    GSGIRL Neither here nor there

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    I am a GPS noob noobie.
    Inherited a nice Garmin Quest that I woul dlike to use in both my car and on the bike.

    Problem is, that when I went to setup the GPS on my new computer, the setup wizard asks me to insert the Mapsource City Select disc 1, then disc 2. Unfortuantely, when I inherited the unit, it did not come with those City Select discs and I cannot complete the setup process.

    Can anyone help me or suggest what I should do?

    Besides try to find the original discs (that is already in process).

    Thanks all.
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  10. PhilSpace

    PhilSpace The Gov Administrator

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    Hi Grace :wave

    You can download the Mapsource program updates and drivers from Garmin, that will give you the program and drivers, but without the CD's you're basically screwed.

    Which Quest? I might know a really nice person that has the right CD's/DVD. Either way, you will need to call Garmin and give them the SN or Registration number to track down the original unlock code for the unit and map version it shipped with.
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  11. GSGIRL

    GSGIRL Neither here nor there

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    Hi Phil :wave

    It is the original Quest (not the Quest 2). CroMag was kind enough to give me his hand-me-down. But not only does CroMag get lost on the road :cromag, but finding the cds in his house is quite another story. :dunno

    I am going to cal Garmin today and ask them what they suggest.

    Thanks!
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  12. RosWell

    RosWell Defeater of Gravity

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    Hey Phil, don't forget to add http://gpsvisualizer.com to the list of places to visit. You can convert all sorts of data formats to others, make cool maps, and do just about anything one would want to do with their gps fairly easily there. They even offer some pretty cool .kml tools for Google Earth.
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  13. gpsbilly

    gpsbilly Adventurer

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    I've been through several threads, but still didn't find an answer to my question so I'll ask here:

    How can I get a Garmin file (gdb or gpx) to people with a Magellan?

    Sending my tracks and waypoints in the gpx format doesn't work, at least with the two guys who tried it last year. Yesterday I found a program called GPS TrackMaker, and it converts from gpx to Magellan's upt and log formats but I don't have anybody right now to try it on.

    Thanks for any help coming my way... :)
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  14. PhilSpace

    PhilSpace The Gov Administrator

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    GPSBabel, quite a few threads and posts on it and how to make it work - here's the GPSBabel compatibility matrix
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  15. Turned-Worm

    Turned-Worm NO LIMITS

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    Yeah, I know that this is a bike forum, but .......
    I need a weatherproof gps unit with a 7 inch or better color screen, large enough to position-follow topo maps at a glance. And I need to be able to adapt the National Geographic Topo map as my base. (In case you REALLY need to know, it will be strapped to my thigh for flying my ultralight trike, where a glance is all you get. Double duty will be on the GS when out of site of home).
    HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  16. PhilSpace

    PhilSpace The Gov Administrator

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    Go to the boat store.
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  17. geode

    geode just a girl on a bike

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    Raytheon makes a nice 7" waterproof marine display ... can input either their proprietary data language or input NMEA 0183 language ... but the display is kinda pricy, and it's not as light as you might wish.

    Your maps will have to be on the correct style data card for whichever display style you chose.
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  18. MoBill

    MoBill Smiles when says dat

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    Hi folks. I'm looking for a "read-back for possible correction", which means, I think I know something and I'd like you to confirm it or tell me I've got it all wrong.

    OK, so the tentative decision is that I can have these things from a Garmin 2720.

    Requirement:
    • Waterproof
    • Can do off-road routing
    • Reasonable refresh/reroute rate (a minute on the side of the road is OK with me).
    • Updatable maps (are any NOT like this...)(meaning you can reload them when they're outdated)
    • Load at least 1 day of waypoints at a time (can you just load them from the USB port from a data stick?)
    • Can avoid highways and do back roads as preferred roads without loading a preset route
    • Audio line out
    Anything else you think is non-negotiable?

    If you think, "If you're going to spend $150, you might as well spend 350 then say so. I'm really on the fence about this--but I'm trying to keep the cost down.

    I've talked about this on a a thread with a few folks, but I'm beginning to understand more...and refining my requirements.

    Thanks all.

    -Bill
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  19. tbirdsp

    tbirdsp REMF

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    One of the problems with noobs to GPS is you don't know the Garmin lingo. I don't know anything firsthand about the 2720 (I have a 60Cx) but here's what I can gather from Garmin's web site:

    Waterproof to IPX7 standard, so yes

    What do you mean by "off road routing"? That actually means a route which is a direct line between waypoints, not following roads. I'm not sure it can even do this. If you mean tracks, it doesn't have much capability, looks like only 2000-point active log and no saved tracks. For reference, the 60CX has a 10,000-point active log and 20 saved tracks of up to 500 points each.

    Refresh and reroute (recalculate?) are 2 different things. Refresh is how fast the screen updates and if you mean "recalculate" that's how fast it will recalculate a route if you get off of it. I don't know the answers there, although it says it has "fast off-route and detour recalculation".

    I assume you can update the maps when they are outdated, but be aware you will have to pay for the updates. Free updates are only for the "Mapsource" interface program software.

    Again, not sure what you mean by "Load at least 1 day of waypoints at a time", it will hold 2000 waypoints. That should be enough for many many days of traveling. In what way do you think you are going to use these waypoints? You can't just load waypoints from a memory stick though, you have to use Mapsource to do it.

    Yes it can "avoid highways".

    Not sure on the audio line out. It actually says "no Headphone jack/audio line-out" in the specs but then it says it comes with an "external speaker with 12v adapter cable".

    https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=164&pID=6387#featureTab

    https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/assets/pdfs/specs/sp2720_spec.pdf
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  20. MoBill

    MoBill Smiles when says dat

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    Thank you. I've scoured that site as well. Problem is that there are aftermarket methods common to the market, but not me. I found out after my post that the cycoactive offers a audio out from the speaker port--just terminates in a jack.

    I guess boiling it down after that: Would it do road warrior work as well as the occasional dual sport event (that's what I mean by off-road)?

    As long as 2000 waypoints doesn't mean 2000 "turns" (you know how many actual instructions can get programmed is more than how many destinations), then that is a lot.

    And gotcha on the mapsource to transfer data. It just means that I'd have to carry my laptop if I want to program new trips.

    I want to make sure that I talk this out enough that I don't regret not buying the 450 or 550. I could afford it, but it'd hurt.

    Thanks for the time you took to write a response. I'm n00b to commercial GPS...so it's the undiscovered country in some ways and not in others. Nothing can be worse than a PLGR (mil GPS) IMO.

    Thanks again.

    -Bill
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