Loud pipes save lives...

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Neal J Hinerman, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Neal J Hinerman

    Neal J Hinerman Adventurer

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  2. C/1/509

    C/1/509 Why?

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    Excellent!
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  3. Undocumented

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    Not wanting to hijack your thread, but, I think this fits.
    HarleyDavidson announced they want to have electric bikes by 2020.
    How will I have a loud bike?
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  4. PlainClothesHippy

    PlainClothesHippy With a tin cup for a chalice.

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    Get rid of the stock baseball cards in the spokes and replace them with the new Screaming Eagle baseball cards. Safety first.
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  5. ZappBranigan

    ZappBranigan Still Riding

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    That's a no brainer. Each electric Harley will be equipped with a 2000w sound system with big speakers on each side of the bike where the exhaust pipes would be on a gas bike. Any time the bike is moving those speakers will blast out an ear-splitting 100db endless loop recording of Drowning Pools "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor."
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  6. Yikes!

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    The word "loud" applies to colors as well as sound. I'd like a mint green and orange plaid electric Hardley life saver please.
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    gonefirefighting Surrounded by Police

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    I get the electric trend don't get me wrong but, I simply enjoy a good exhaust note. I have cultured and manicured all of my bikes to emit a pleasing utterance of horsepower and bravado that no electric bike would ever be able to accomplish regardless of performance.
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    RowBust Been here awhile

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    When e bikes take over here is an opportunity for an entrepreneur. Develop an app to play any exhaust note you require through earpods, connected to the power control you could choose heavy thumping or screaming 2 stroke, moto gp any sound you want as loud as you want, you can blow your eardrums out while everyone else can live peacefully
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  9. Aj Mick

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    Loud pipes, along with extra bright flashing lights and other "look at me " farkles are a distraction and an annoyance that probably do more harm than good.
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    Awesome beyond imagining!

    Now I want to see them do it with a chello :clap
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  11. Neal J Hinerman

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    Harley Davidson had electric bikes available for test rides a few years ago at the Progressive Motorcycle Show in Long Beach, CA. I happened to be outside when the pack went by. Talk about a bunch of whiners...
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    DesertPilot Been here awhile

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    But does Harley also plan to branch out into trombones? There are any number of branding possibilities: Brasster... Dyna-slide... Hardwail... Flatboy... Jazz King...
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    Really all it takes is a simple synthesizer and a good speaker to make an electric bike sound exactly like anything you want it to. They could even work in shift points relative to throttle use. Computerization and good audio equipment can do anything with sound. :dj

    Your bike could sound like a big V-twin, a snarling V-12, top fuel drag racer, virtually silent, or the Jetson's space ship... even sound like Fred Flintstone "accelerating" away... now that would be cool!:lol3


    By the way, haven't any of you heard any of those tuner cars with those big honkin' stainless mufflers? Some could be in a brass ensemble.
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    We call them "fart cans".
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    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    Yeah, they blat along down the road, usually reminding me of those straight pipe Harleys...

    Lots of noise, not much forward motion. :dunno
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    I might buy that bike.
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    Yeah, all that is going to even further limit your range. When I trailer 1500 miles to ride for a week in real mountains every two years, I'd like to get in more than an hour of riding a day.
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    The Feb 2018 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News includes an article about loud pipes. In the article, written by Jim Halvorsen a retired officer, it details of a study done with officer recruits. Five recruits were loaded into a car, traveling 55mph on the interstate with no radio/music playing, no police radio, no conversation or other distractions. The recruits were instructed to raise a hand when they heard a police cruiser approaching from behind with the sirens blaring at 65 mph. The recruits typically raised their hands when the cruiser/sirens blaring was about two car lengths behind their vehicle. The intent of the study was to emphasize to these new officers to not depend on forward facing sirens to adequately get the attention of drivers. Further, their training included to watch for sudden or unexpected actions by drivers who may be startled by the siren noise.

    This study was done as a specific training event, in a somewhat controlled manner, using sirens (louder than most loud pipes) which project their sound forward of the vehicle. Of course, loud pipes project their noise rearward. Perhaps if the "Loud Pipe" crowd were REALLY safety focused, their loud exhausts would face forward on the bikes. Yeah, sure, that'll happen.

    Whenever I am in my car or pickup, and I notice an approaching emergency vehicle with lights flashing from any direction, I note to myself when I can actually hear the sirens with enough certainty to identify where the noise is coming from and how soon it will be near. And I am always surprised how close the emergency vehicle has to be before I can actually hear it. So given all this, to me, loud pipes do nothing as a safety enhancement.
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    Andy, it doesn't matter if you hear a bike behind you. Only if you hear it beside you where you could pull over into him. I don't like loud pipes and all my bikes are stock, but there have been times when I have known bikes are beside me or coming around me in my van only because I heard them.
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  20. Andyvh1959

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    Well true, and I have noticed that too. But I stand on my principles that if you are that close to a car there is very little you can do in the split second to react to a car moving over. You are already deep in the danger zone. I still prefer to not ride myself into that situation, whenever possible. That's why on multi lane roads I am almost always in the far left lane, riding slightly over the pace of the traffic. And I watch/analyze every vehicle I overtake.
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