LS2 Helmets U.S.

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Phil_Ammendolia, Jan 5, 2014.

  1. Wings

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    Thanks for the quick reply Phil, that helps a lot-while your product looks great, your dealer locater is sorely lacking :lol3 even now, if I plug in Aurora, Colorado, it only refers me to MC Superstore.com instead of the Honda dealership in Aurora you mentioned...

    I called the dealership, they don't have exactly what I'm looking for, but do have quite a few models & sizes to try and it's only an hours drive, so that's well worth it-going to make a quick run up on the weekend and check them out, I'll let you know how it turns out!

    In the meantime-can you point out the differences between the FT2 FF385 vs 396 or is it just a new graphics? I'm sure I'll feel like a fool when you point it out, but I can't seem to find the difference in style.

    Also, I couldn't find the weight of each model listed in the specs? I'm interested in weights of the modular 386 compared to the FT2 385/396

    We both need new helmets, this looks like it might be the ticket :D
    I'd be more than happy to show them off to dealerships in the area if I can get my hands on them...
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  2. Phil_Ammendolia

    Phil_Ammendolia No Guz No Glory

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    Hi again,

    The FF385 is the earlier version and the FF396 is the newer. The shells are the same. They both weigh about 1450 grams +/-. The FF386 is about 1400 grams +/-. The FF386 has an OVAL fit.

    There are two other differences between the FF385 and the FF396.

    1) The FF385 is more OVAL and the FF396 is LONG OVAL.

    2) The FF385 has an extra vent in the forehead. On the 396, we removed that and increased the size of the two top vents, so you get the same air flow with a simpler design.

    A NOTE: Both the FF385 and the FF396 come in two versions; FT2 and CR1. The FT2 has a retractable sun shield and quick release strap. The CR1 does not have the sun shield and has a double-D strap. Aside from that, same shell, same fit, same shield.

    Hope that's what you're looking for.

    Let me know how you make out at Aurora.

    All the best,
    Phil
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  3. tedmarshall

    tedmarshall Been here awhile

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    Nice to see Reg again. Lost track of him. Took a riding class from him at a Buell event in Wisconsin years ago.

    Bought the modular helmet in hi-viz. orderd at IMF show in Chicago last weekend. Hasn't arrived yet.

    I will report back on the helmet's performance.

    Ted
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  4. Wings

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    OK, reporting back :D

    First off, huge kudos to Jon Orloff (the parts manager) at Aurora Honda :clap
    Super nice guy, both on the phone and in person, couldn't find a more helpful salesperson to help us.
    Really nice little dealership with a friendly atmosphere, reminded me of a small town family owned place :thumb instead of a huge conglomerate business so frequently found in bigger cities-despite not being a huge dealership, they have a pretty darn good variety and selection of helmets and if you're in the business for a new lid, whether it be a LS2 or another (he offered a really good deal on some leftover Arais too, check them out linky to kudos .

    As far as the helmets are concerned, I tried the Fullface FT2 385 in a small and it did not fit me well, overall the size felt just right but I had a lot of pressure around the top of my ears and the helmet was perched up as if the upper area was just a bit too narrow.

    Unfortunately they did not have the 386 Modular or the Adventure MX 453 in stock in a small, but I tried them in a medium and even though they were a little big, the shape seemed different and more comfrotable from the Fullface 385 and resembled the fit of my Arai XD3 much more (Phil, am I way off here on the helmet shapes being different?).

    What surprised me most was the weight of the Modular 386, which was the biggest reason I shied away from it initially-with both shoulders replaced and a fused neck, a lightweight helmet makes a huge difference for me.

    I've tried a Shoei MultiTec a while back and loved how calm it behaved in dirty air, but the weight was a killer (+it just didn't fit as well), I barely ever wore this lid and ended up selling it to a friend-it was near new.
    The medium sized Modular 386 in comparison seemed much lighter and maybe felt even a bit lighter than my size Small Arai XD3, as was the MX 453.

    I was able to wear glasses without trouble under the secondary sun-visor of the 386-a huge bonus and one of the reasons (aside from the very reasonable price) I really wanted to take a look at the LS2 helmets, since I have a hard time riding without sunglasses (but now need regular glasses for close-up stuff) and hate carrying a spare shield.

    The build and quality appeared to be fine, the paint & finish looks great; I sure won't hesitate to give them a whirl.

    As far as fit/shape is concerned, there's no doubt that the Arais still cradle my head better than anything else I've tried to date, they seem to just wrap perfectly right around my noggin somehow. I've even crash tested one to the extreme and walked away (well, gimped anyway, but I'm still typing!) - but if you're looking for something well made that doesn't break the bank AND has some really outstanding functional features otherwise hard to find in helmets, the LS2 helmet line might just be the ticket (nope, no affiliation, Phil didn't bribe me :D ).
    It was definitely a pleasant surprise and I've tried a lot of different helmets (here's a review of Airoh Stelt Senior I jotted up a couple years back if you're interested).

    Off I am to find me a deal on an 386 on-line somewhere :D
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  5. Kavan

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    Hi Phil,

    What's the difference between MX442 and MX456?

    K.
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  6. Phil_Ammendolia

    Phil_Ammendolia No Guz No Glory

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    Hi Kavan,

    You MIGHT see the twice. I wrote a response and thought I saw it posted, but... Hmmm.

    The MX456 is our top of the line off-road helmet. It is the helmet that Cyril Despres wore while winning the Dakar Rally in 2013. In 2014 Cyril wore it again to a 4th place finish and Daniel Mazzucco wore one while winning the quad division. We had nearly 100 riders wearing an MX456 a6 Dakar in 2014. It is a proven performer.

    It's a fiberglass shell designed to accommodate modern neck braces with a flat platform at the back of the neck. The cheek pads are inflatable with the built-in air pump for a custom fit. Super wide eye port will work for all modern brands of goggles. It's light weight. The liner is a technical fabric and is fully removable and washable.

    I the U.S. we offer the MX456 in two versions: Less expensive DOT version for trail riders (same basic helmet wihout the ECE standard is available for about $170. The ECE/DOT version for racers has a suggested retail of $209.95.

    The MX442 is our value priced MX helmet and seriously might be the best value in a fiberglass, DOT/ECE helmet on the market. SUPER lightweight at only 2.47 pounds for a medium size. Large eye port. Removable, washable technical fabric liner. NOTE: The MX442 runs a little large. I normally wear a medium, whether in an Arai, Shoei, Bell or LS2. With the MX442 I wear a small. The suggested retail is $149.95. There are some smokin' deals on last year's Vault and Jump graphics out there. I've seen those graphics for as little as $89.

    Did I answer what you were looking for?

    Thanks,
    Phil
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  7. Kavan

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    Thank for clarification, I should have wait for your respond didn't know MX456 offer 2 versions Dot and both ECE/DOT racer version. Bought a Flag graphic ($169) yesterday. Just check, it only has DOT label on it. It's easily misunderstood as MX456 advertise as wore by Dakar Rally winner and many racers and end up getting less expensive Trail rider version. It's kind of misleading. I'm disappointed with Chaparral that sales person didn't tell me or know it has two versions, I don't think they carry ECE/DOT racer version. I would have happy to pay more.

    Here is MX456 link page, it does say DOT and ECE approved.
    http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Product/ls2-mx456-us-flag-helmet/371-456-1021.aspx#tabs_container

    Hope Chaparral can exchange with racer version or return.

    K
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  8. 2 SPOT

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    how is this statement verified? did they all crash and walk away w/o head injury? or is a helmet deemed a proven performer because it simply stays on the wearers head? i guess ALL my past helmets were proven performers:lol3

    i'm just poking of course,, but that is a funny statement.


    oh and BTW kavan, i thought all the helmets were DOT and ECE when i started shopping for a new dual sport helmet,,, i learned later they areant, its a bit misleading.
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  9. poondangle

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    I bought a 442, here's my initial impression

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  10. clint64

    clint64 Been here awhile

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    Phil

    Does the MX 453 run true to size according to the size charts?
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  11. Phil_Ammendolia

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    Yes. I've been at a lot of consumer shows and have probably fit over 30 people in the MX453. The vast majority have worn what they felt was their typical size.

    The MX453 is a long oval which is probably the most common head shape in the U.S. I get a very high percentage of people who try it telling me they really love the fit.

    Thanks,
    Phil
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    Hi 2 Spot,

    I understand how that statement can sound, but I can explain what I mean by "proven performer." There are a lot of helmets that look the part, but under tough conditions, fail. Gaskets that surround the face port and bottom of the helmet fall off. Liners don't wick moisture, lose their shape fast and fall apart. Parts fall off. And yes, though not often, some people get hurt due to helmets claiming to meet specs they don't really meet. Dakar will find the weak points in any equipment and our team riders have been very happy with them. Hope that makes a bit more sense out of my answer.

    Thanks,
    Phil
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  13. AZcacti

    AZcacti Dope on a Rope

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    Confirmed Long Oval shape and industry standard sizing. Took delivery if an Mx 453 this week. Very comfortable, cheek pads are a little tight, but those will probably loosen up with use. Very satisfied so far!
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  14. Kavan

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    Hi Kavan,

    The MX456E have been out of stock, but the shipment is on the water and will be available in a week or two. The pump buttons on the Trail version are at the back on the flat rear of the helmet. On the E they are inside the chin bar. If you send me an IM, I'll send you a note when the E is available.

    Thanks,
    Phil
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  16. clint64

    clint64 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the confirmation. Going to place an order next week.
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  17. 2 SPOT

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    i was just being sarcastic,, but i gotta give you props for the amount of time you spend replying to comments and general Q's by folks here
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  18. Phil_Ammendolia

    Phil_Ammendolia No Guz No Glory

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    Hey man,

    Thank you. I appreciate it.

    Phil
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  19. Kavan

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    Hi Phil,

    Thank you for patiently answer all the questions. PM sent! I would like to be inform when MX456E back in stock again. I like the fit of the helmet so Hopefully not too long.

    Looking forward to hear back from you.

    K.
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  20. BadBrett

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    PM sent to ya Phil.......
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