Maico 700

Discussion in 'Australia' started by rickjames, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. rickjames

    rickjames RIP rickjames.

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  2. rjf

    rjf SBS's #1 fan in January

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    It'd be great for cutting in new single track:wink:

    As for being fast on single track, I'd reckon 99% of riders would be much quicker on a 250 4stroke.

    It'd be a blast on fire trails tho!
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  3. rickjames

    rickjames RIP rickjames.

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    I compared the standard specs ie. wheelbase, seat hight, ground clearence suspension travel and weight and it's about the same as a 250. The only problem is getting 82hp to the ground :evil
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  4. rjf

    rjf SBS's #1 fan in January

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    Having the bigger heavier crank spinning around would make it slower trurning too.


    Untill ya hit the throttle and 82 hp quickly turns you arse about face!:lol3

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10040263&postcount=8
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  5. rickjames

    rickjames RIP rickjames.

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  6. kiwipeet

    kiwipeet Uber Cyber Loafer

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    They look awesome... :tb

    I'd like to see one in the flesh... I wonder how long they'll be around for?
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  7. Indo2002

    Indo2002 Been here awhile

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    Who're ya going to get to start it for ya??? They better know a good orthopaedic surgeon!!!:rofl
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  8. rickjames

    rickjames RIP rickjames.

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    Still own a XL600R 83 couldn't be much worse than that could it :eek1 ?
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  9. GSnovice

    GSnovice Beer me up, Scotty!

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    an 82hp single cylinder stroker! Can I have a ride? Just a short one - I figure my shoulders would be out of their sockets before I got very far! :eek1
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  10. rickjames

    rickjames RIP rickjames.

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    More than welcome to have a ride while I recover from my first off :lol3 .
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  11. KTBen

    KTBen Barrrp!

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    Depends on the power delivery, in rough stuff it would be a hard bike to ride fast but f#*k it would be fun! CR500s & KX500s are to much bike for a lot of people but thats also why some people love them.:evil
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  12. Bigem

    Bigem Long timer

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    I had a look at the "little" 500 at Conondale on the weekend. Beautifully made piece of kit.

    700cc would be fucking scary!!

    I have one question, Why?
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  13. factory

    factory Adventurer

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    Unless they've really weaved some Maico magic as per the old 490 I can't see this being much chop. Too vibey and heavy on fuel for longer rides, to much grunt, vibes, flywheel, Hp, everything for off road

    Imagine the vibration!! God a >700cc two stroke, you'd be lucky to hold on to it for the vibes. It must have a >100mm bore, therefore a huge slug. Think about it, if it were a 4 cyclinder it would be a 2.8lt. Don't see many 2.8lt 4 pots in performance applications. Too much capacity per cylinder, heavy pistons, vibrations, poor cylinder filling etc. Of the few engines with cylinder capacities this large they need a balance shaft to stop vibes. Apparently the ideal size cylinder (for volume to surface area ratio) and therefore cylinder filling is 300cc as evidenced by F1 3500cc V12, 3000cc V10 and 2400cc V8.

    Also at that size it will be slow revving and need a heavy flywheel so it doesn't stall - making it hard to turn.

    There has to be a reason why smaller and smaller bikes are getting more popular for offroad use. A big bore is now a 300cc according to the other sane motorcycle makes.

    Never know though - those carzy Germans could be on to something!
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  14. middy

    middy Been here awhile

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    I owned a CR500 and IT 490 and loved them because after the first bit of a ride not many people bothered asking again.

    Some people wouldn't even attempt to ride them no matter how curious they were.

    After the 500 I couldn't imagine a 700:loco
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  15. rickjames

    rickjames RIP rickjames.

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    I found out they don't meet ADR so that throws my plan out the window. I should have looked into that before getting all excited :1drink .
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  16. middy

    middy Been here awhile

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    cr500e then for you:thumb
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  17. rickjames

    rickjames RIP rickjames.

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    ATK also make a 700 2 stroke :scratch I'll have to look more into it :evil
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  18. AKDuc

    AKDuc Alaska Born Ducatisti

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    WOW, cool! :brow

    I had no idea Maico was back! Way cool. Thanks for the link. :thumb

    Now, having had 400 and a 450 Maico's in the past, I can't even imagine a 700! Holy moly.

    But I'd sure like to give one a try! :evil

    Good luck and have fun, Mark H.
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    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    Ana rticle on the bike from 2003... (it's been around a while) :deal


    Publish date: Mar 1, 2003
    By: Rick Sieman
    Source: Dirtbike at Off-Road.com

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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So You Say You Want Some Serious Horsepower?[/FONT]

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    Frank White put the ATK through the paces for a few laps at the Desert Vipers Grand Prix.
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    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ATK, the American-based company, has been around for a long time now. And for much of that time, they used Rotax engines of one sort or another in their own unique frames. However, the Rotax two-stroke technology has become rather dated, so ATK went hunting for some new powerplants. And while they were at it, they also came up with entirely new chassis designs.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Interesting, for sure.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Their approach is one that we like: all the bikes will be considered multi-purposes off-road machines, not pure motocross or pure enduro bikes. This means, simply, that all the bikes will come with lighting capabilities. They won't come with headlights/taillights, but if you need to have lighting for some reason, all you'll have to do it bolt on the lights and hook 'em up.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Now, for the big news. Here's the new line-up for ATK:[/FONT]
    • <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]250[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]320[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]390[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]500[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]620[/FONT]
    • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]700[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]THE 700cc ATK INTIMIDATOR![/FONT]
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    New King of the Beasts? The 700cc ATK is certainly in the running for that title.
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    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Naturally, our attention was drawn to the 700. Based on the latest technology from the folks who built the famed Maico/M-Star motors, the Intimidator (good name!) has a piston big enough to use to mix paint in.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I was scheduled to test ride the Intimidator at the Desert Vipers Grand <NOBR id=itxt_nobr_6_0 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 100%">Prix[​IMG]</NOBR>, but my motorhome lost the rear wheels on the way to the event, and I spent most of the weekend getting the thing fixed and back home. However, Mike Hobbs from ORC, was there and managed to get some photos and feedback on the bike. Frank White (CEO from ATK) put in a few laps on the beast to shake it down a bit, so we can at least give you a preview. We'll arrange a full test session with ATK later on and give you some actual riding impressions.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For now, here are some specs and info on the 700:[/FONT]
    <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=1 itxtvisited="1"><TBODY itxtvisited="1"><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top bgColor=#333333 colSpan=2 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Intimidator Specifications[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Engine Type:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Liquid-Cooled, 2-stroke, single[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Displacement:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]685CC[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bore & Stroke[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]100X87 mm[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Carburetion:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]39mm Kehin[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ignition[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SEM lighting output 130 watt[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Starting System:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kick start[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Transmission:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5-Speed, Wide Ratio[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Fuel Capacity:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2.5 Gallon / 3.5 Gallon[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Front Suspension:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Paioli USD[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rear Suspension:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]WP[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Front Tire:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dunlop 755 80/100-21[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rear Tire:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dunlop 756 120/100-21[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Final Drive:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]D.I.D. V6 520 O-ring chain[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="25%" bgColor=#333333 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dry Weight:[/FONT]</TD><TD class=Normal vAlign=top width="75%" bgColor=#990000 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]238 lbs[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top bgColor=#333333 colSpan=2 itxtvisited="1"><TABLE cellSpacing=22 cellPadding=20 width="100%" border=0 itxtvisited="1"><TBODY itxtvisited="1"><TR vAlign=top itxtvisited="1"><TD width="50%" itxtvisited="1">[​IMG]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Plated pipe and left side kickstarter. Looks like a Maico, and why not?[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Carb is a smallish 39.5mm Keihin; pipe curls neatly up and out of the way.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]GPR steering stabilizer ? stock![/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Frank is justifiably proud of the latest ATK creations.[/FONT]
    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR itxtvisited="1"><TD class=Normal vAlign=top bgColor=#333333 colSpan=2 itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Standard Features[/FONT]

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    • <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Talon billet aluminum hubs[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Answer Protaper bars[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Braided stainless steel lines[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nickel plated exhaust pipe[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Radialite rear sprocket[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Excell rims[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]GPR steering stabilizer[/FONT]
    • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Wave rotor disc brakes[/FONT]
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    Talon rear hub; Radialite sprocket. Stock.
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    Another Talon hub up front.
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    Wave rotor and Brembo brakes.
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    With the head off, a rather huge hole is evident!
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    • <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Tire choice[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Excell rim color choice[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Front wheel size (20" or 21")[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Plastic colors[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Seat foam and cover[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Suspension valving and springs[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Handlebar bend[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Final gearing[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jetting[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Lighting kit[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Skid plate[/FONT] <LI itxtvisited="1">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Handguards[/FONT]
    • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3.5 gallon fuel tank[/FONT]
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    Compact motor is based on the latest Maico stuff.
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    White at work on the 700 at Adelanto.
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    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ATK is going to let the potential customer, custom order their motorcycle with the options noted above to fit their individual riding desires and conditions. This is new to this industry.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The retail price has not yet been determined, but after talking with ATK folks, it will almost certainly be in the ballpark of between $6000 and $7000. When you consider the astonishing amount of top dollar items that come on the bike as standard equipment, you start to wonder how they can do that. Go price items like Talon rims, Protaper bars and a quality steering stabilizer, and you'll see what we mean.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Performance? Since we have yet to sling a let over the bike, we'll give you the thoughts of Frank White, the ATK CEO who rode the bike at Adelanto:[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]?It pulls right off idle and all the way to peak revs with more power than anyone will ever need. It's sort of like a 490 Maico on steroids. The power is simply amazing and very electric!"[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]With this sort of statement lodged in our mind, we're looking forward to a serious ride on this beast, and others in the 2004 stable of ATK bikes. Stay tuned to Off-road.com.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For more information:[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ATK MOTORCYCLES
    1163 West 850 North
    Centerville, UT 84014
    (801) 298-8288
    FAX (801) 299-0710
    Website: www.atkusa.com
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  20. Bigem

    Bigem Long timer

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    ATK = Maico?? The buggers identical.
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