Making of the "Oklahoma Adventure Trail"

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Central, Texas & Gulf States' started by OKlr, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. Hack'dTiger

    Hack'dTiger n00b schn00b

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    Heard this as a rumor recently, and after some research I was sent the excerpt below. Anyone else heard about it?

    "I have copied this from a local Jeep forum. I don't know any more info other than this. I believe the concern is from 9 pines road over to the Indian Hwy. This would be the first leg and the most challenging part of the trail. I have not been on the trail this year. So, maybe do a little bit of investigating and make sure you won't get into trouble.

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    Just confirmed a suspicion that both my buddy Taylor over at Overland Textile Co and I had about KTrail and Clayton Trail in Clayton, OK. Both are off limits and this has been confirmed by Eric Dane the Oklahoma Game Warden in that county responsible for patrolling that area. This is quoted from Taylor from another FB Group....

    "I talked with Pushmataha County game Warden, Dane Polk this morning. Had a long phone conversation with him. It's been a private road for years and years now. It's 100% private land on both sides of the road (as we knew), and IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD as well (no different than someone's driveway). Has been for a LONG time apparently. This isn't a recent deal. There is NO forestry land up there, and no ODWC land either. There USED to be but it has all been sold to private land owners, so everything on and along the trail is private from 9 Pine Road up till the Fire Tower. From the fire tower eastward is USFS land and legal to be on. I went by the 9 Pines entrance of Clayton Trail yesterday and there are no signs, no gates, nothing... so I asked Dane why there wasn't anything there to stop the traffic, and he said that they just get ripped down and it's a lost cause to try and stop them... he did say if you are caught on it, and the land owner wants to press charges, you will be fined a $500 trespassing ticket the first time, and the 2nd time you are caught it's $1500. Doesn't matter if there are signs or not, as you DO NOT need to post your land in Oklahoma to press trespassing charges, so signs or not, it's illegal to be up there. If you don't believe me, or have questions of your own, please contact Dane Polk, Pushmataha County Game Warden based in Clayton, OK (+1 580-271-0808). He will tell you everything I just did, as he has jurisdiction over that trail. Not USFS, not country Sheriff, not local PD... Dane is in charge of it."

    So guys, stay off KTrail in the section that is NOT USFS land. Let's not create a bad name for the overlanding or rock crawling community by trespassing."

  2. TreyJK

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    Yeah I've read the same thing from my Jeep clubs. I'm staying off the K Trail until further information!


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  3. Shawnee Bill

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    There is a road #D4697 on google maps that goes up the hill I think east of the fire tower. I wonder if that is an open road? Pretty good climb.
  4. Hack'dTiger

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    If it's the one I'm thinking about, it winds north and will eventually dump you out in Whitesboro. Just east of the tower, go north. I'll have to look at he map though. If so, it's very rocky, pretty much all downhill to the north. Rough ride on loaded 650s. Going north is much easier than south. :lol3
  5. Shawnee Bill

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    I did that on a wee storm several years ago, uphill, fun switchback about half way up :jack
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    :muutt
  7. Pixturethis

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    Is there a way for the game warden to look at the OAT trail to make sure it is all not on any private land that cause problems, I plan on doing this this year, and am from out of state, I do not want to get any of the land owners upset for being on there land, I respect any of then that do allow us on there'so, and as long would like to show respect to the ones that do not want us on there land.
  8. metal_ftw

    metal_ftw Been here awhile

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    I am really wanting to check this trial out. Unfortunately I don't have a sweet GPS. I plan to use my phone. I have a GPX viewer app but it doesn't seem to allow me to tell it to work as a GPS. Is there a way to load this gpx into Google Maps?
  9. Shawnee Bill

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    Get a different app, your phone should work as good as a gps as a gps does.
    Try Osmand or Locus.
  10. metal_ftw

    metal_ftw Been here awhile

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    Spent a bunch of time trying to edit the map to fully load what I plan to do in a day into Google; used google earth. What a massively over complicated, time consuming frustration.
  11. Shawnee Bill

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    I find almost all planners are not user friendly. What I do is figure out where I want to go, set free standing waypoints at corners, no route, then load them into my gps app and just let the gps route me from one to the next.

    The OAT gpx file is in the first post of this thread, it should load/import right into your phone app and show up.
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  12. KiloGraham

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  13. wnm_82

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    I'm admittedly super new to this, but I've had good success with plotaroute and then downloading GPX to phone, opening in Osmand.
  14. Shawnee Bill

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    Yeah, I think with a little effort you can learn to use these planners. My problem is I have no motivation to learn, I've been making trips for years and seem to be a little set in my ways :gerg

    I do like new tech but I do not like learning to use it sometimes
  15. metal_ftw

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    Still having issues downloading maps in osmand. I tried downloading them on my phone and computer, uploading them to the phone, etc. Still not working. Thought I had everything set with Google Earth / maps / offline mode on Google maps. The small roads on the GPX and tracks wouldn't load in maps, or GPX viewer (Android) in off line mode. I ended up having to guess partial routes when cell service failed and rely on Google Maps navigation.

    Due to the issues I have had with osmand I have been debating buying Gaia. Have you all had better luck with it? I think osmand would be great, but it seems like a few people have had issues with the most recent osmand not downloading map files.
  16. Shawnee Bill

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    I'm kind of new to Android and Osmand, I recently bought a Nomu S10 to be used as a GPS.
    I have the OAT loaded into Osmand+ and showing on the map. I'm not sure how I did it and I'm not sure how to delete it completely and start over.

    But here's what I think I did. If I download a track in the Android it shows in file manager, downloads folder. If I tap on it there it asks me if I want to import it into Osmand and I get an error message. But interestingly I do get all the "favorites" that are in the gpx file and they will show on the map but no track. Same thing with every .gpx file I try to load not just the OAT.

    I am a Mac user so I download the OAT gpx on the Mac, import it (or any gpx) into Basecamp. Then I export the track only from Basecamp into a file on the Mac, then I email that file to the Android using gmail. Then I open that email on the Android and tap on the attachment in the email and it will import into Osmand. I have no idea what I'm doing but it works.

    What appears to be working is getting the gpx file as an attachment in a email on the Android then just importing it directly from the email into Osmand.
  17. wnm_82

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    I plug my phone into the computer and then drag and drop my gpx tracks into the tracks folder in Osmand. The tracks folder is located at Android\data\net.osmand\files\tracks
  18. KennyWT

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    In a few weeks from now I'm planing on picking up on the OAT around Muldrow, possibly forth smith from a buddies house and heading south. Question i have is that a good place to pick up on it or should I start further south? Looking at doing a 2 day to a 2.5 day ride. Will be on a wr450. Ride from the truck about a days ride camping and then back tracking to the truck and driving home.
  19. metal_ftw

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    I would update the trail myself but I can't figure out how without messing up other sections. I found a few parts that were permanently closed.

    Found on the south east portion.

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  20. metal_ftw

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    Wouldn't be able to take the trail on my sport bike; wife and I have been exploring it in our truck. Almost got stuck at the road closed by the lake in my previous post.

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