Making of the "Oklahoma Adventure Trail"

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Central, Texas & Gulf States' started by OKlr, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. kiltedcrawford

    kiltedcrawford Been here awhile

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    Any opinion on whether it's best to post one looong report or break it up into multiple posts?
    There will be pics, but not many.
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  2. cropear

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    Kilted may mention this. I think it is relevant on direction of travel. Maybe this is just a preference deal growing up in Southwestern Oklahoma. But, it is always better to drive into a south wind than a north wind on a motorcycle in western oklahoma.
    So, traveling North among-st the trees, elevation changes, and back and forths of eastern oklahoma seemed like a better idea than driving north from altus to freedom in a bone chilling north wind.
    Again this may just be preference. It was discussed however between us. We both agreed that CounterClockwise was best for us.
    Or as Charlie and Ewen would say Anti-Clockwise
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  3. OKlr

    OKlr 25mph gate inpector

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    Seems like good reasoning to me. I thought i knew what wind was until i moved to Clinton. So did you guys enjoy the ride, was it entertaining? Did you have any trouble on the couple of water crossings? Since you are from SW Oklahoma i would be interested to see any changes you think to the route in that area. The only thing cool i could find was that irrigation ditch. I'm really anxious to see the ride report. You should put a link here in this thead, and make the ride report over in "ride reports" and put a link in the report over there linking back to here. Maybe get some more people to see the thread that wouldn't normally go looking here.
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  4. kiltedcrawford

    kiltedcrawford Been here awhile

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    I'll get the ride report done and posted tomorrow, linking as you suggest.
    I'll cover it in the report but you did a fantastic job, in my opinion, particularly as you mostly routed it looking at a comouter and county maps.
    The riding down here is pretty straightforward and fast; it's the contrast between the flat farmland and ancient, rugged mountains that's interesting. You did as good a job as I could have done routing it.
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  5. Shawnee Bill

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    I think something between, a few pics with some writing between, then the next posting. I like seeing the maps you have already posted with some associated pics and text.

    Just my opinion though. :D


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  6. airdale7

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    AGREED!!!:clap
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  7. cropear

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    The two Dakar's at the Kings Inn in Valiant. Great Hotel for the ride. As it has a great restaurant within 100 yards and a Quick stop across the Street.
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  8. airdale7

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    A great palce to visit is Natural Falls State Park just off of 412. This is where the Last Ride of the Year 2012 will begin. Then ride south on the gravel roads and cross the Illinois River. From there this route follows the river south to Tahlequah. Hope all that reads this can make it. :clap

    I will research Sequayah County and to the south and find a trail there.

    For now, this is the route for TLROTY2012
    https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msi...7bfe64fcdbc949&msa=0&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=10&vpsrc=6
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  9. Dadayama

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    Can't believe folks are already hitting the road... that rocks!!!! can't wait to read the ride report.
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  10. Dadayama

    Dadayama Constant Adventurer

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    Here is an alternate route to be considered... (not scouted), for the western portion. This takes you through the Black Kettle National Grassland, and by a the Washita Battle Field, then heads more directly towards Glass Mountains... from there it goes to the Salt Plains.

    Attached Files:

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  11. Dadayama

    Dadayama Constant Adventurer

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    Just throwing this out to be considered... but here is another route from the Salt Plains to Perry

    Let me know if the GPX files are working right....

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  12. kiltedcrawford

    kiltedcrawford Been here awhile

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    I didn't notice this yesterday.
    Cropear needs to help me with this, because I think my mind is going, but no. It was obviously dry, so it wasn't the best test.
    The deepest we crossed was NE of Tahlequah when we were heading up to the Illinois. It was up and over my feet, but it was a low water crossing on a good road and we rolled right through.

    I think that, in a normal or wetter year, there would be a few more crossings than indicated, and I'm including designated low water crossings here. I think we only hit 3 or 4 that actually had water in them.
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  13. cropear

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    Seems like there was the water crossing that Kilted is talking about. That crossing may have had some major potholes covered by water from the looks of the way the water was flowing. Then after that one there was a larger but better maintained water crossing that maybe had 4 inches of water in it.
    There were many potential water crossing down in the SE. That could have been hairy if there would have been any sort of precip within the last year.
    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/xnth4u5NmjLCWEg5nVw6cQJMuarhPAz_dSLEu4K6ln0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-65gaOMCFAOE/UMp-itqK8eI/AAAAAAABU9s/NEJvuLNKwKE/s800/IMG_00492.jpg" height="598" width="800" /></a>
    This is a photo of one of many type crossings down in the Ouachita area that we ran across. Most of these appeared to be well maintained due to the logging industry i am guessing. With the elevation change you might encounter I could see these running pretty good.
    Latitude 34.153667° N
    Longitude 94.547667° W
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  14. OKlr

    OKlr 25mph gate inpector

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    wish i was at home so i could check these out. Stuck at work for the moment. BTW i edited the first post of this thread and replaced the outdated .gpx file with the most up to date version.
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  15. kiltedcrawford

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    OKlr 25mph gate inpector

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    Great ride report. I have a feeling you guys are going to be the only one's to ride it for 2012. Looks like the weather isn't going to hold out much longer. Thanks for the feedback and cool pictures.
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  17. kiltedcrawford

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    I'd love to say that our planning and skill got us through, but we were extremely lucky.
    We did knowingly take advantage of the drought; we figured we might as well make a positive out of a negative.
    BUT, if it were wet, it wouldn't have happened in a week. If Monday's snow had fallen north and west, as it usually does, it wouldn't have happened in a week either. The first half of the trip was unseasonably warm; if it had been much colder, it probably wouldn't have happened in a week.

    I think the drought we're in now is the key to doing this thing in a reasonable amount of time. I don't know what the long term forecast is, but January's normally our driest month, so if you can handle cold, for Oklahoma, it might be worth checking out then.
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  18. OKlr

    OKlr 25mph gate inpector

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    i liked the routing for the most part except out in roger mills county. i worked on that section a bit. I will update the first post with the new master.


    EDIT:

    Updated first post with new routing on some of the western section. (thanks dadayama) It cuts down some of the mileage and removes the alabaster park, but adds the black kettle national grassland. Also update the SE part of the state to remove some of the highway. Based the SE section route off the current county maps for the area, all should be well grated dirt or gravel with some short pavement in between. Currently i'm looking at ways to improve the section in arkansas. I would like to keep the trail intact up untill the waypoint on this picture, then continue north on gravel or dirt kinda where the red line is.

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  19. cropear

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    I like the route currently near the border up to the above Lat and Long.
    That way the rider gets to ride through elohim city and take a look at those funky cement sprayed structures and other stuff. Somewhere up there you ride over or next to workmens mountain. which was unique in that the road was just pretty much granite. Like you were riding on a huge monolith that had all the dirt washed off of it.
    There is alot to offer up on this side of the state. I would defer my opinion to someone who knows it better. The highway in Arkansas was not really worth it under than a means of transit. I do not remember there even being many amenities along the way (gas, food, lodging).
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  20. OKlr

    OKlr 25mph gate inpector

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    i don't guess i'm folowing you......Are you saying we take out the arkansas highway part and leave the rest of the sw section the same as what you rode, or are you saying that as long as it goes by that city you think its ok? And is this the location for the city? 35°38'28"N 94°30'48"W