Making Tracks with Garmin Receivers

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by R-dubb, Dec 8, 2005.

  1. bob814u

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    I thought I knew what my GPS could do until now. I am over joyed to find out that life can be easier even though I will still take my compass and map with me. The batteries in my compass (Silva Ranger) don't die (I hope). The GPS stuff will help in my riding and Geocaching. Thanks alot.
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  2. Hektoglider

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    Another option when handling data files,is to take a track on your PC and use it to create a route.You can minimize the waypoints where you know you will navigate easily,and increase the waypoints in areas where there is many trail intersections,or when you need to leave a small village,plot the waypoints closer together until you have it leading well onto the trail or road.This increases the usable space in your Garmin, by using the routes for navigation and the tracks are fairly empty and have plenty of space for logging newfound trails and roads.Or if you have many places to go,you can fill both tracks and routes with navigable info.
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  3. jaedueck

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    Thanks for the explanation. This post has definitely been helpful.

    I am trying to do exactly what summerinmaine is working on. I've got some track files from others and I want to use them to navigate my route. We are planning a 5 day ride through baja and I've got a track for each day (~5000 points total). I also want to log our track so I can come back and look at where we went (hopefully including altitude and time data).

    Based on this discussion, what I was thinking was that I would split the 5 days up into saved tracks of <500 points each (bit of a pain in the butt but I'll have 24 hrs in the truck - driving from Canada - to do it). I was hoping I could log the entire 5 days to the SD card but I was wondering, would this maintain the altitude and time information? Does the data saved to the SD card behave like the data saved on the internal memory (i.e. does it remove the altitude and time data?)?

    Thanks,
    Jason
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  4. MTRREF

    MTRREF Been here awhile

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    I remember reading a post on saving track to the memory card on the 60Cx (this would save more detail than just saving the track). I finally got around to playing with my unit and I couldn't figure out how to do it. Can someone help?

    Jim
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  5. mars

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    Go to the track menu - setup - data card setup then click the box that says log track to data card. The only limit to the track log is the size of your memory card.
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  6. MTRREF

    MTRREF Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the quick reply, but I'm still lost. Is this a new feature? I may be one update behind.

    When I do Menu>Menu>Tracks>Setup there aren't any options related to a data card. The pull down under Record Method is Time:Distance:Auto.

    Thanks again, Jimn
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  7. mars

    mars Starbucks anyone?

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    it sounds like you are on the right page.
    mine starts with
    wrap when full
    record method
    interval
    color
    then a button that says data card setup

    I tried mine without memory card and I still get the data card setup button.

    dont know what to say except you might not have the same GPS as mine. Mine is a gpsmap 60CX.

    did you look in the manual? it explains this pretty well.
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  8. MTRREF

    MTRREF Been here awhile

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    My confusion was caused by old software on my 60Cx. Once I did the automatic update thing, everything made sense! Thanks for all the help.

    Jim
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  9. clint999

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    What he said (except Streetpilot III, and UK not Toronto and therefore wet but rideable, not cold). SPIII was a cheapie from e-bay as a try-out, and I'm completely hooked.
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  10. Dmotorider

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    I thought I knew everything about my GPS, but some of you obviously spend more time in front of your computer than I do. It's kinda sad, but winter can do that to a guy I guess. Good on-ya for taking the time to type out this info for others though! :clap

    Now, back to the point before I forget. I've just upgraded the software on my GPS60CSx and now I can see the "Data Card Setup" button (as well as a nice listing of what's on the card.......cool). I'm just wondering what get's recorded and how I can see it (I don't have a microSD card reader with me)? I see that it's a 'gpx' file with todays date, and assume it records all the same info that the track log does. Can I look at or download the file to my laptop without taking the card out of the GPS?

    Cheers from Venezuela
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  11. Dmotorider

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    I use GPS track times to identify where I took pictures, so I always keep all my devices (GPS, cameras, laptop, watch, bike clock, etc...) set to local times when I travel.

    One of the annoying things for me about MapSource is that it will change the times of all the tracks depending on what the UTC clock time is (or my laptops time). Obviously, this complicates things when I'm in another time zone by making the timestamp on my photos & videos inconsistent with my tracks.

    Keep in mind that my situation is rather unique as I've been on the road for more than 19 months now through the Americas and I've crossed through several time zones (which I've kept a record of, but daylight savings time really makes things confusing) and this just adds to the work load later.

    So as a quick solution, recently I've started typing the time of the 1st track point into the name of the track in the 'Track/Properties' window (I save every day's track as a separate file by date). Ex: "2008-04-29 (7:36:14 AM)". That way I always know the correct time to set MapSource to when coordinating my images later.
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  12. 250senuf

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    Use the USB cable to hook the GPS to the computer. Put the GPS into "USB mass storage Device" mode. It should show up as another removable drive. Copy the .GPX file to your computer.
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  13. Dmotorider

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    Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look as soon as I can (don't have the GPS here right now). I don't remember seeing the option to set it to "USB mass storage Device" mode. Can you tell me where that setting is?
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  14. 250senuf

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    In the main menu go to "Setup", then "Interface". Select "USB Mass Storage". I'm using the 76CSx so I hope it's the same on your unit since the only difference between them is that mine floats.
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  15. Dmotorider

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    Thanks 250senuf, that worked like a charm. Don't remember ever seeing that "USB Mass Storage" button before. Think it got added when I did a firmware update a few weeks back.
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  16. 10Cup

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    Hopefully someone has an easy answer for what I am doing wrong here. I have no problem with making tracks on my mapsource computer software but when I download them to my 2720 I have no way to pull up tracks and navigate them, only "Routes" can be pulled up.

    What am I doing wrong here?

    TIA
    Mike
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  17. pckopp

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    You did name your track 'ACTIVE LOG', right? It won't accept anything else. If you did name it something else, the 2720 acts as if it received it, but it won't show up.

    Tools, My Data, Track Log

    Set Map Display to Auto and you should see your track on the display.

    There is only one track in the 2720. If you have track recording on and turn on and off the gps, when you download the track to MapSource, you will get a new track for every power-on sequence. Ex: Turn on gps, drive to dinner, turn off gps and go eat. Come back to car, turn on gps, drive home. You will see two different tracks in MapSource when you download them. They will both be called ACTIVE LOG nnn. nnn being the sequence number - 001 thru whatever.

    'Navigating the track' is a bit tricky. There are no track controls for a saved track other than showing it or not showing it. The track is displayed as a single black dashed line. Not easy to see and there is no 'gps smarts' attached to it. Nothing to tell you a turn is coming up or anything like that. Its the equivalent of a line drawn on a paper map.

    You may want to turn off track recording when you do this. Otherwise, you will get a dashed black line following you as you move and you could have trouble distinguishing the track ahead (where you want to go) from the track behind (where you've been).

    You can do it but the 2720 isn't the greatest tool for this.
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  18. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    Interesting and informative (for a newby to gps like me) discussion about recording tracks and downloading them to the PC.
    I was wondering about doing it in reverse, creating tracks on the pc then uploading them to my 60CSx. Is this a reasonable thing to do? And is there some technique that simplifies this process if it is possible?
    I've been fooling around with it, but I'm like a blind man in a supermarket, lots of stuff to grasp at but no idea what it really does. I select tools then stumble about onscreen, some things work and most things I try don't. It's crap software so I'd appreciate any advice or tips.

    Or am I barking up the wrong tree and I should be using routes?
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  19. tbirdsp

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    You certainly can create tracks using the "track draw" tool in Mapsource and then load them to your 60CSx. Make sure they don't have more than 500 points each though. The 60CSx has 20 saved track slots that can take tracks up to 500 points each.
    Lots of folks use tracks for everything, but for routing where you know there are roads (and they are shown in your mapping software) I usually use routes.
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  20. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    Hi Mike. I tried playing with the track draw tool, I traced a 12 kilometre twisty bit of dirt road, and it musta put 200 plus points/dots in there. For twisty stuff, to stay on track, that's pretty limiting as far as distance goes. I found I could drop points on the track and it used a lot less points per kilometre but just seems to straight-line the track, no good in twisties with lots of sidetracks.
    I think part of my problem is that the offroad mapping available doesn't support autorouting. Otherwise I could place points at either end and a few at important turns and be done with it. I'm not sure of how to use tracks more efficiently and stay on-track, so routes may be more appropriate for what I'm playing with.
    I have a 200 kilometre ride to do, and I'm thinking I may need to do it as a route to follow, and log it as a track while riding it to get an accurate stay-on-the-trail set of data.
    Gotta love this learning curve.:huh
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