Making Tracks with Garmin Receivers

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by R-dubb, Dec 8, 2005.

  1. tbirdsp

    tbirdsp REMF

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    Are you doing what I did at first with the track draw tool - holding the left mouse button down as you trace your path? That was driving me nuts until I asked here and figured it out. You can just move along your intended path and click to drop points as needed to follow the curves accurately. Or is this what you mean by "drop points on the track"?
    Just straight line the parts that are straight anyway and add a bunch of points to the curves:D
    Since you said your maps don't support autoroutiing but you talked about "do it as a route to follow" I guess you mean an off-road route (straight lines between points). In that situation I still think it's far better to draw a track to follow. An off road route is gonna be just like a track only with less points and it will give you a general idea of which way to the next point. I'd rather follow a track.
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  2. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    I've managed to spend a couple of hours playing around with the knowledge I have digested here. I've made a track for 196km that should be followable on the screen, with roads and trails visible on screen at 800m scale, and saved it on the laptop as well as to the unit, and swapped mapsets on the unit to a one I like better. The help here is invaluable in getting people up to speed, heartfelt thanks.
    I was wondering a couple of other things. I read an inmate somewhere stores tracks in a folder called just that, tracks, on his data card. I tried it but the unit just didn't pick it up, and there seems no facility to change directory, so to speak, so does this mean the 60CSx unit reads from the garmin directory only?
    And the other thing I'd like to change is the colours used on the actual map, is that possible? I've looked everywhere but can't find an option for it.
    And I'm assuming the unit will support me following one displayed track (the one I made) while logging the current track I am riding at the same time? Thanks.
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  3. pckopp

    pckopp Aged Adventurer

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    The 60CSx stores tracks it receives from MapSource in its internal track memory. It has room for 20 stored tracks and the ACTIVE LOG, the current track. There is no concept of a folder here. These track memories are built-in to the unit. The 20 stored tracks can be set to displayed or not, what color, and the like, but not organized otherwise.

    When the 60CSx is recording tracks (your breadcrumb trail), it is recorded into the ACTIVE LOG track. If you congifure it, it will also record your track onto the memory card as a .gpx file. This is a one-way process in the gps unit. You cannot see or use this track in any way from the gps unit. You can transfer these gpx tracks into MapSource and edit/store them and then transfer one or more of them back to the gps into one of the 20 stored tracks.

    I wonder if your original poster was referring to storing tracks from MapSource? There, of course, you can organize the files and folders on your PC any way you like.

    Your manual is worth reading. :deal

    Hit Menu twice, Setup, Display. You have a bunch of choices in daytime and nighttime color schemes. Pick the one you like best.

    Yes.

    It can't be repeated often enough. Set your 60CSx to record a detailed gps track log to your memory card. This does not affect your use of tracks otherwise. Most of us find this tool invaluable, especially if you're a 'track guy', or gal.

    HTH. Have a great Thanksgiving and be thankful Garmin made us such a cool toy to play with the rest of the year. :clap
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  4. pckopp

    pckopp Aged Adventurer

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    One other thing that came up recently when making and using tracks. Use the same map in MapSource that you have loaded in your GPS. Roads and trails that are shown on two different map packages won't be displayed in exactly the same place on either map. They will be generally close, but it is unlikely they will be exact. Quite unlikey, actually.

    City Nav has pretty good back road coverage in my area, but it doesn't match Topo or Roads & Rec in the fine detail. Keeping a detailed track record with a gpx file (if your gps does that) is a good way to learn which of your maps agrees with the actual roads the best.

    FYI.
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  5. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    Thanks for the replies Phil.
    I did some more searching and found it was CMWody who had a "routes" folder, and the way it read it implied he had it on his unit, but it wasn't specific. No big deal for me, I was just curious is all.
    I'd had a play with the colour schemes prior to asking the question about map colours, and all it seemed to do was change colours in other screens, and change the colours of the borders, text, and text-box background colours. It's the actual map display itself I'd like to change. I'm starting to think the actual map colours may be static. :dunno
    I've also fooled around with my newly-mastered track skills and different maps. The maps all seem to use the same source data, as even at high zoom when I flick betwen the 3 different mapsets I have they all line up exactly the same onscreen. This makes the track highly portable between products (luckily).
    I haven't bought CN yet, and the local Aussie product is similar to yours in that it has a pretty good backroad and trail coverage, quite impressive actually. I want it for the autorouting feature, since the offroad maps don't do this, but I've been reading how the 60CSx doesn't exactly comply with what you download, unlike say a 276, and will recalculate your explicit route for you (bummer) so I'm still on the fence for this. The real killer is that I can buy a consumer-grade gps with autorouting street maps, that's hardware and software just ready to turn on and use, with a host of useful features, for considerably less that the cost of CN alone. Garmin pricing is a bit rich IMO, especially when you take into account the useability issues they have with it (to put it mildly).
    Anyway, I'm making progress and learning, thanks to folks like yourself, and I've gotta be happy about that. I just need the rain to stop here and my shoulder to heal and I'm right to go, and getting toey to ride too!:1drink
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  6. pckopp

    pckopp Aged Adventurer

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    Happy to help. There is a learning curve with this stuff.

    Maybe the Zumo can organize that way on its SD card. I haven't used one for awhile.

    I think so.

    Wow, CN North America runs about $75 here. Less on sale and at various online places. No fully loaded gps units available here for that price. What does CNAus cost?

    Lots of folks use a 60Cx with great success even with its few shortcomings. I use one a lot and it has never led me astray. Its a good unit, IMO and lots of other folks.

    Good luck with yours.
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  7. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    CN retails here for $195 Australian. :eek1 A cheapo consumer gps can be had for the same price, with autorouring street maps, POI,s, etc. Some stores are giving them away with purchases over a certain dollar amount, and I think the threshhold is $999. Garmin pricing is just stupid.

    I really like the 60CSx, I just wish it did autorouting like it's bigger brothers, that's the only real gripe I have with it.
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  8. tbirdsp

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    I think I directed you to my long thread about the routing. It really hasn't been an issue for me. Just add plenty of via points when you create the route. If you need more than 50 break it up into 2 routes.
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  9. pckopp

    pckopp Aged Adventurer

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    That is expensive!

    The 60CSx does do auto-routing. It just needs an auto-routing map package to be useful. The base map will auto-route but it just isn't real useful.

    The 60CSx is sold ala-carte; gps, maps, mounts all sold seperately. That makes it more expensive. Do you have a 60CSx now?
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  10. tbirdsp

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    Phil, I think he already has the unit and was talking about the way they do routing ie recalc with your via points.
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  11. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    :nod Yup. The explanations I found here described it very well. The way it does a recalc (unlike say a 276) is a bit of a bummer, but small cheese really in the overall scheme of things, and the workaround with via points is enough to get by. It's just annoying.

    On the bright side, the cortisone injection in my shoulder is beginning to work, and I can feel a return to riding fitness in the next week or so.:clapCan't wait to try out this gps to log a track or two.
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  12. MichaelJ

    MichaelJ Long timer

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    More fun with tracks.

    Get a copy of GPSU (my favorite).

    Open the Mapsource .GDB file in GPSU

    Edit (or not) as you wish.

    Save as Google Earth .KML

    Open in Google Earth.

    I save all of my rides in daily increments - it's a lot of fun to revisit favorite rides in G.E.
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  13. newbaumturk

    newbaumturk Adventurer

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    ok first time i have tried this. made a loop on mapsource and downloaded to my nuvi 255w..... where the hell is it on my gps? or am i missunderstanding how this works?
    thanks for any help
    newbaum
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  14. tbirdsp

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    You *are* misunderstanding how it works on a Nuvi. These units can't take custom routes from Mapsource. All you can do is navigate to your "favorites" (waypoints).

    If you look at the specs for the Nuvi 255W it says "Routes : 0".
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  15. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I posted this in the Garmin Oregon topic already but I think it might be appropriate here too, since it shows the way Garmin's going with their newer units, and might be of interested to those who haven't been following the Oregon thread.

    From the GPSFix Blog:

    Here’s something bound to make Garmin Oregon 450 and 550 owners happy. Two new posts from Garmin on their trail tech blog indicate upcoming support for custom waypoint and geocache symbols and improved tracklogs. While the beta software doesn’t seem to be available yet the posts look promising.

    Here’s a summary:

    - Custom Symbols
    - Create your own bitmap symbols, up to 32 pixels wide by 32 pixels high
    - Override built-in waypoint or geocache symbols
    - Add up to 56 new waypoint symbols

    Tracklog improvements
    Configure daily or weekly track archives
    Change the color of the current tracklog
    View archived tracks on the GPS
    Use the stopwatch to start and stop archive tracks
    Mark archived tracks as favorite saved tracks so they can be navigated, viewed, etc
    Archive your favorite saved tracks

    No word on whether either of these features will be available on the Dakota, Colorado or Oregon 300/400. Once the beta software is available I’ll be posting tips on how to use both new features.

    End quote

    These are the posts referred to in the blog post above:
    http://garmin.blogs.com/softwareupdates/2010/03/getting-more-with-automatic-track-archiving.html
    http://garmin.blogs.com/softwareupdates/2010/03/personalize-your-map-with-custom-symbols.html
    Go to the GPSFix Blog here: http://www.gpsfix.net/custom-symbols-tracklog-archive-improvements/
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  16. Ardenito

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    Thanks for this info...... at the risk of dumb questions/too basic.... I have just bought a Nuvi 265W.... does it do the traking thing and do I simply download a new version of MAPSOURCE.... reread your directions and DO IT!!!???Thanks
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  17. BK.RD.RNR

    BK.RD.RNR Torque Stick

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    Can any of you tell me how to find a track file on my garmin 60csx after I transfer it from basecamp? I'm litterally getting ready to slam my head against a wall!

    Laymans terms for the (obviously) technologically challenged please. :D

    I opened the file in basecamp, sent it to my 60csx, but now I can't figure out how to find it on the 60csx. It's really starting to frustrate me... Now I remember why I was so fond of my maps! :lol3

    Any suggestions?
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  18. BenFongTorres

    BenFongTorres Banned

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    Press Menu twice
    Select Tracks
    Select the saved track from the saved tracks list at the bottom
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  19. BK.RD.RNR

    BK.RD.RNR Torque Stick

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    I tried that. tracks page says 99percent, 20 unused, no tracks listed in the window.
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  20. HardWorkingDog

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    Well, then it sounds like the track file didn't transfer. What did you do to (unsuccessfully) try to transfer the file?
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